For clarification. Sometimes, when you hear a conversation among known friends that you want to be a part of, you might quickly say "comment" so as to not double with someone. When you're given the go to talk by somebody already in the QSO, then you give your call sign. It may not be "by the book," but it is a polite way of knocking on your friends' "door," rather than breaking it down.
As to the other goings on in this net control string, I think it's pretty well solved if not amplified beyond its original limits, hurt feelings and all, so let's all just get over it and move on to something constructive. 73, JP, K5JPP > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Jeffery MacMillian via BVARC <[email protected]> > To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]> > Cc: Jeffery MacMillian <[email protected]> > Date: 08/04/2021 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fw: Monday night net > > > Good Afternoon, > > That is a lot of Drama for a Monday night net. Dwayne does a great job > and we are lucky to have him and all of the other operators as well. Anyone > that regularly visits a net should know that a Net Controller will call for > Check in and should not take check in outside when he is calling for them. > That is very disruptive to the net. Outside an out of date script, which is > just a minor issue, there is a cultural shit on the 94 machine in general. > > Several times I would just say good morning to a fellow ham on the 94 and > someone breaks in with COMMENT, not their call sign or emergency traffic, and > I had to wonder what was being discussed in a good morning greeting that > would require a commnet? > On the front end it is a bit rude, on the back end annoying and I tend to > just go about my day. it seems like Instant messenger culture on ham radio. > There is a rule to listen first then transmit doesn't apply evenly across the > board some mornings. > Cultural changes aside, there are many other repeaters and nets that can > be reached and when these start to get annoying, I tend to just turn the > dial. The BVARC net is still a great place to check in and participate, but > who really wants to deal with On the Air Drama? > > I think there are a few that need to rework their expectations of the > hobby and learn how to listen before they key the mic. That has probably > always been true. I am sure we have scared off more than one XYL in our days. > > > If anyone has forgotten this is a hobby and supposed to be fun, then I > think you might not be doing it right. If you got your feelings hurt and need > an apology then ask for one or turn the dial. It"s really not the end of the > world. > > BVARC is a great club and the net is as it will be. Drawing in huge > numbers seems like a good thing, but it really depends on the night and what > is happening at the time. As far as I know there is not an official quota for > net participation. I don't ever recall having 90 people show up for a BVARC > net. That would be ridiculous. I think I am good for about 20 minutes on a > good day. I have always found the BVARC net as warm and inviting as any on > the air. We have great topics and run through an efficient program. Feedback > is always a good thing, but it should be constructive and help move things > forward. > > Have Fun, > Jeff > KC5TT > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 10:53 AM K5IZO via BVARC < [email protected] > mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > Radio Hotel has already said that he will update the > script late this week. I’m sure he appreciates all the comments made for > possible inclusion in the revised script. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Eddie Runner via BVARC < > > [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave... Read the script, it is old and needs to be redone... > > > > > > Parts of it are not even valid.. The net control has to > > > ad-lib a lot of it > > > and all net controllers do it a little different.... > > > > > > in fact part of the script reads > > > You do not have to follow the script word for word. Relax, > > > this is a hobby. > > > If you are going to pick on Dwayne, you have to pick on > > > everyone... > > > mostly board members that dont even read the script thats on > > > the website... > > > if any board member had read it recently I am sure it would > > > be changed!!!! > > > > > > Yes, we should make everyone feel welcome.... Rewrite the > > > script, > > > coach the net control operators.. > > > > > > Dont complain about a volunteer which this club is lucky to > > > have... > > > Thanks to Dwayne, this problem might finally get fixed.. > > > > > > Eddie Runner (NU5K) > > > Im the web guy, it is my job to make folks feel welcome, and > > > sometimes > > > I appreciate other folks guiding me along that path.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 09:09:41 PM CDT, DAVID ELY < > > > [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > As a BVARC board member, I am concerned that anyone should be > > > discouraged from any of our activities. > > > There is NOTHING is the Monday Night or daily STIR CRAZY > > > scripts that states that "In-and-Outs" are to be excluded so don't bother > > > to check in. > > > As one of the net controls, I have often experienced > > > operators who checked into the net as a "In-and Out" later come back to > > > participate. > > > As net control operators, we need to be mindful that we are > > > the voice of BVARC, > > > To those who were offended by this incident, please accept my > > > apology that you were discouraged from checking into one of our nets. > > > I can assure you that I will address this occurrence at the > > > upcoming meeting of the BVARC Board of Directors. > > > > > > 73, > > > Dave Ely - N5EKW > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 2:38:00 PM CDT, Eddie Runner via > > > BVARC < [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rodney, and the club > > > I am a long long time BVARCer, but I am not a BVARC board > > > member, and I have never been > > > net control.. > > > > > > I agree with your points! > > > I think the club needs to refresh the outline and goals for > > > the monday night net. > > > > > > Years ago it was more fun... The same net controller > > > DWAYNE (KB5YTA) > > > used to do the net EVERY MONDAY.. > > > > > > Now I think they rotate and its once a month... > > > > > > I can remember Dwayne pulling in 80 or nearly 90 checkins > > > each net... > > > It was a ritual to get checked in on the monday night net. > > > > > > Nowdays we are lucky to get 20ish checkins... > > > > > > And your points may be part of the problem!! > > > > > > The net has changed... > > > > > > My wife as well (KF5GWZ) told me to check her in last > > > night... I didnt bother doing so > > > nor did I check myself in.... > > > > > > Don't lay it all on Dwayne, he is a volunteer, he is doing > > > what he thinks is good.. > > > We are lucky to have volunteers like Dwayne... > > > > > > Thanks for voicing your opinions.. > > > Maybe these messages will change things.. > > > Dont give up.. !! > > > > > > Eddie Runner (NU5K) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, August 2, 2021, 09:32:22 PM CDT, rodney martinez > > > via BVARC < [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > So I have an issue here about tonight's Net Control > > > management. > > > > > > He starts off the check-ins basically saying that if you > > > don't have anything to contribute, don't bother checking in. Then later > > > in the transmissions he basically said to one check-in that he didn't > > > want "check-ins, and outs". > > > > > > BVARC Team, this is not right. Many people want to check in > > > to register their monitoring of the net. Many of them just want to > > > listen and LEARN. I had my General Class wife all set up to check in for > > > the first time. After she heard that, she just went into the next room. > > > She wants to drop her membership now. I don't think some board members > > > will really care. I know one wont. And telling the one person that he > > > was dis-invited from doing a "Check-in, Check out" was out of line in my > > > opinion. He probably just wanted to be a part of the BVARC team. Do you > > > seriously think he will contribute in the future after that embarrassment? > > > > > > If BVARC wants new members, or to retain current members, we > > > need to be more inclusive, and allow new members to at least try to be > > > inclusive. We are not a military operation. I served, and know the > > > difference. We are a club of Hams that want to have fun. > > > > > > Please straighten this out, or post your rules for what any > > > Hams can, or cannot say in check-ins. But please, lighten up, and allow > > > new Hams to become happily participating members. > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Rodney J. Martinez > > > Intellitech Automation, Inc. > > > 832-423-5640 (Cellphone) > > > 8816-326-49843 (Satphone) > > > NK5Q (Ham Callsign) > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 25, 2021, 4:18:40 PM CDT, Rick Hiller via > > > BVARC < [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <image.png> > > > > > > > > BVARC NEWS BLAST Issue # 70 > > > > > > > > --Ice Cream Social -- DELAYED until October > > > > --Join the Slow Speed CW Net -- Thursday 8PM > > > > --Skeeters Baseball Night -- This Thursday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NETS > > > > > > > > BVARC Stir Crazy Net -- > > > > Tune into 146.94 every weekday at Noon for a fun, > > > > information packed 1 hour. Check in and maintain your sanity and > > > > improve your Ham Radio knowledge. Spread the word. All are invited, > > > > as with all BVARC nets and activities. > > > > > > > > Monday Night Net -- 8PM, July 26, join Terry, K5PGF, > > > > NCS. > > > > 146.94 Repeater. C > > > > U there. > > > > > > > > Wednesday Night Rag Chew Net -- 3910 KHz at 7PM. John, > > > > K5LKJ - NCS. Just chew'n the rag on 75. Early check-ins from 6:30. > > > > Telephone check-ins call 832-474-3713 during the net. > > > > > > > > GHSN -- Greater Houston Simplex Net -- > > > > Visit the web site at simplexhouston.com > > > > http://simplexhouston.com/ for dates, times and frequencies > > > > Mark, N5PRD, is the point of contact. Contact him at: > > > > N5PRD@ mailto:[email protected] yahoo.com http://yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > New Slow Speed CW Net -- Thursday Evenings at 8 PM on > > > > 7.090 +/- 5 KHz. > > > > Join John, K5LKJ, for a pleasurable CW experience. > > > > Check in and let the net improve your CW skills. > > > > Listen for QST, QST, QST.....right at 8 PM (0200 > > > > UTC). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > News, Presentations, plus On Air and Social Activities > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > August 2021 BVARC Beacon Newsletter, in color, is soon > > > > to be on the web site at www.bvarc.org http://www.bvarc.org/ . July > > > > Newsletter is there now. > > > > > > > > All BVARC News, technical information and > > > > editorial comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BVARC at the Skeeters -- Baseball Night July 29th > > > > > > > > Scott, KD5FBA, is managing the BVARC Seating Group. > > > > > > > > [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > > > Link for ordering tickets for Ham Radio Night in > > > > the Park. > > > > > > > > https://fevo.me/3ht9IsC > > > > https://fevo.me/3ht9IsC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Parking is $5.00 in advance and $10. On the day > > > of game. > > > > > > Parking ticket fee link is: > > > > > > Parking 7/29 - MyProVenue™ (tickets.com) > > > https://mpv.tickets.com/?agency=MILB_MPV&orgid=55531&pid=8934670&tfl=Parking_at_Constellation_Field-tickets-na-ticket_grid-7-unknown-unknown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VEC Testing -- Bayland Park -- Saturday August 7th at > > > > 10:30 AM > > > > > > > > Contact Mark Janzer, K5MGJ for details at > > > > k5mgj@http://yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BVARC e-mail list serve -- tired of your e-mail bell > > > > going crazy due > > > > > > > > to the BVARC reflector activity? You can sign up > > > > to get a > > > > > > > > "once a day" composite digest of all of that day's > > > > activities. > > > > > > > > Just log on and change your settings to "digest". > > > > > > > > You can also access the "archives" of past e-mail > > > > activity > > > > > > > > from the BVARC home page at: > > > > > > > > http://bvarc.org/home/club-listserver/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================================= > > > > > > > > Meetings > > > > August Ice Cream Social -- Delayed until October > > > > Due to the rise in Delta variant cases and erring on > > > > the side of caution, the powers that be thought best to delay the first > > > > in person, post Covid get together for a few months. 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