Wise words K5JPP! I could not agree more. K5LER Larry Riendeau
> On Aug 4, 2021, at 13:01, JP Pritchard via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote: > > > For clarification. Sometimes, when you hear a conversation among known > friends that you want to be a part of, you might quickly say "comment" so as > to not double with someone. When you're given the go to talk by somebody > already in the QSO, then you give your call sign. It may not be "by the > book," but it is a polite way of knocking on your friends' "door," rather > than breaking it down. > > As to the other goings on in this net control string, I think it's pretty > well solved if not amplified beyond its original limits, hurt feelings and > all, so let's all just get over it and move on to something constructive. > > 73, JP, K5JPP >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Jeffery MacMillian via BVARC <[email protected]> >> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]> >> Cc: Jeffery MacMillian <[email protected]> >> Date: 08/04/2021 12:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fw: Monday night net >> >> >> Good Afternoon, >> >> That is a lot of Drama for a Monday night net. Dwayne does a great job and >> we are lucky to have him and all of the other operators as well. Anyone that >> regularly visits a net should know that a Net Controller will call for Check >> in and should not take check in outside when he is calling for them. That is >> very disruptive to the net. Outside an out of date script, which is just a >> minor issue, there is a cultural shit on the 94 machine in general. >> >> Several times I would just say good morning to a fellow ham on the 94 and >> someone breaks in with COMMENT, not their call sign or emergency traffic, >> and I had to wonder what was being discussed in a good morning greeting that >> would require a commnet? >> On the front end it is a bit rude, on the back end annoying and I tend to >> just go about my day. it seems like Instant messenger culture on ham radio. >> There is a rule to listen first then transmit doesn't apply evenly across >> the board some mornings. >> Cultural changes aside, there are many other repeaters and nets that can be >> reached and when these start to get annoying, I tend to just turn the dial. >> The BVARC net is still a great place to check in and participate, but who >> really wants to deal with On the Air Drama? >> >> I think there are a few that need to rework their expectations of the hobby >> and learn how to listen before they key the mic. That has probably always >> been true. I am sure we have scared off more than one XYL in our days. >> >> If anyone has forgotten this is a hobby and supposed to be fun, then I think >> you might not be doing it right. If you got your feelings hurt and need an >> apology then ask for one or turn the dial. It"s really not the end of the >> world. >> >> BVARC is a great club and the net is as it will be. Drawing in huge numbers >> seems like a good thing, but it really depends on the night and what is >> happening at the time. As far as I know there is not an official quota for >> net participation. I don't ever recall having 90 people show up for a BVARC >> net. That would be ridiculous. I think I am good for about 20 minutes on a >> good day. I have always found the BVARC net as warm and inviting as any on >> the air. We have great topics and run through an efficient program. Feedback >> is always a good thing, but it should be constructive and help move things >> forward. >> >> Have Fun, >> Jeff >> KC5TT >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 10:53 AM K5IZO via BVARC < [email protected]> wrote: >> Radio Hotel has already said that he will update the script late this week. >> I’m sure he appreciates all the comments made for possible inclusion in the >> revised script. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 4, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Eddie Runner via BVARC < [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave... Read the script, it is old and needs to be redone... >>> >>> Parts of it are not even valid.. The net control has to ad-lib a lot of >>> it >>> and all net controllers do it a little different.... >>> >>> in fact part of the script reads >>> You do not have to follow the script word for word. Relax, this is a hobby. >>> If you are going to pick on Dwayne, you have to pick on everyone... >>> mostly board members that dont even read the script thats on the website... >>> if any board member had read it recently I am sure it would be changed!!!! >>> >>> Yes, we should make everyone feel welcome.... Rewrite the script, >>> coach the net control operators.. >>> >>> Dont complain about a volunteer which this club is lucky to have... >>> Thanks to Dwayne, this problem might finally get fixed.. >>> >>> Eddie Runner (NU5K) >>> Im the web guy, it is my job to make folks feel welcome, and sometimes >>> I appreciate other folks guiding me along that path.... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 09:09:41 PM CDT, DAVID ELY < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> As a BVARC board member, I am concerned that anyone should be discouraged >>> from any of our activities. >>> There is NOTHING is the Monday Night or daily STIR CRAZY scripts that >>> states that "In-and-Outs" are to be excluded so don't bother to check in. >>> As one of the net controls, I have often experienced operators who checked >>> into the net as a "In-and Out" later come back to participate. >>> As net control operators, we need to be mindful that we are the voice of >>> BVARC, >>> To those who were offended by this incident, please accept my apology that >>> you were discouraged from checking into one of our nets. >>> I can assure you that I will address this occurrence at the upcoming >>> meeting of the BVARC Board of Directors. >>> >>> 73, >>> Dave Ely - N5EKW >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 2:38:00 PM CDT, Eddie Runner via BVARC < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Rodney, and the club >>> I am a long long time BVARCer, but I am not a BVARC board member, and I >>> have never been >>> net control.. >>> >>> I agree with your points! >>> I think the club needs to refresh the outline and goals for the monday >>> night net. >>> >>> Years ago it was more fun... The same net controller DWAYNE (KB5YTA) >>> used to do the net EVERY MONDAY.. >>> >>> Now I think they rotate and its once a month... >>> >>> I can remember Dwayne pulling in 80 or nearly 90 checkins each net... >>> It was a ritual to get checked in on the monday night net. >>> >>> Nowdays we are lucky to get 20ish checkins... >>> >>> And your points may be part of the problem!! >>> >>> The net has changed... >>> >>> My wife as well (KF5GWZ) told me to check her in last night... I didnt >>> bother doing so >>> nor did I check myself in.... >>> >>> Don't lay it all on Dwayne, he is a volunteer, he is doing what he thinks >>> is good.. >>> We are lucky to have volunteers like Dwayne... >>> >>> Thanks for voicing your opinions.. >>> Maybe these messages will change things.. >>> Dont give up.. !! >>> >>> Eddie Runner (NU5K) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, August 2, 2021, 09:32:22 PM CDT, rodney martinez via BVARC < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> So I have an issue here about tonight's Net Control management. >>> >>> He starts off the check-ins basically saying that if you don't have >>> anything to contribute, don't bother checking in. Then later in the >>> transmissions he basically said to one check-in that he didn't want >>> "check-ins, and outs". >>> >>> BVARC Team, this is not right. Many people want to check in to register >>> their monitoring of the net. Many of them just want to listen and LEARN. >>> I had my General Class wife all set up to check in for the first time. >>> After she heard that, she just went into the next room. She wants to drop >>> her membership now. I don't think some board members will really care. I >>> know one wont. And telling the one person that he was dis-invited from >>> doing a "Check-in, Check out" was out of line in my opinion. He probably >>> just wanted to be a part of the BVARC team. Do you seriously think he will >>> contribute in the future after that embarrassment? >>> >>> If BVARC wants new members, or to retain current members, we need to be >>> more inclusive, and allow new members to at least try to be inclusive. We >>> are not a military operation. I served, and know the difference. We are a >>> club of Hams that want to have fun. >>> >>> Please straighten this out, or post your rules for what any Hams can, or >>> cannot say in check-ins. But please, lighten up, and allow new Hams to >>> become happily participating members. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Rodney J. Martinez >>> Intellitech Automation, Inc. >>> 832-423-5640 (Cellphone) >>> 8816-326-49843 (Satphone) >>> NK5Q (Ham Callsign) >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, July 25, 2021, 4:18:40 PM CDT, Rick Hiller via BVARC < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> <image.png> >>>> >>>> BVARC NEWS BLAST Issue # 70 >>>> >>>> --Ice Cream Social -- DELAYED until October >>>> --Join the Slow Speed CW Net -- Thursday 8PM >>>> --Skeeters Baseball Night -- This Thursday >>>> >>>> >>>> NETS >>>> >>>> BVARC Stir Crazy Net -- >>>> Tune into 146.94 every weekday at Noon for a fun, information packed 1 >>>> hour. Check in and maintain your sanity and improve your Ham Radio >>>> knowledge. Spread the word. All are invited, as with all BVARC nets and >>>> activities. >>>> >>>> Monday Night Net -- 8PM, July 26, join Terry, K5PGF, NCS. >>>> 146.94 Repeater. 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