I was going to say the same. 

Typos Compliments of iPhone
Chris Luppens


> On Aug 4, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Larry Riendeau via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Wise words K5JPP! I could not agree more. 
> 
> K5LER
> Larry Riendeau
> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2021, at 13:01, JP Pritchard via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> For clarification. Sometimes, when you hear a conversation among known 
>> friends that you want to be a part of, you might quickly say "comment" so as 
>> to not double with someone. When you're given the go to talk by somebody 
>> already in the QSO, then you give your call sign. It may not be "by the 
>> book," but it is a polite way of knocking on your friends' "door," rather 
>> than breaking it down.
>>  
>> As to the other goings on in this net control string, I think it's pretty 
>> well solved if not amplified beyond its original limits, hurt feelings and 
>> all, so let's all just get over it and move on to something constructive.
>>  
>> 73, JP, K5JPP
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>> From: Jeffery MacMillian via BVARC <[email protected]>
>>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Jeffery MacMillian <[email protected]>
>>> Date: 08/04/2021 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Fw: Monday night net
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Good Afternoon,
>>>  
>>> That is a lot of Drama for a Monday night net.  Dwayne does a great job and 
>>> we are lucky to have him and all of the other operators as well. Anyone 
>>> that regularly visits a net should know that a Net Controller will call for 
>>> Check in and should not take check in outside when he is calling for them. 
>>> That is very disruptive to the net. Outside an out of date script, which is 
>>> just a minor issue, there is a cultural shit on the 94 machine in general. 
>>>  
>>> Several times I would just say good morning to a fellow ham on the 94 and 
>>> someone breaks in with COMMENT, not their call sign or emergency traffic, 
>>> and I had to wonder what was being discussed in a good morning greeting 
>>> that would require a commnet? 
>>> On the front end it is a bit rude, on the back end annoying and I tend to 
>>> just go about my day. it seems like Instant messenger culture on ham radio. 
>>> There is a rule to listen first then transmit doesn't apply evenly across 
>>> the board some mornings. 
>>> Cultural changes aside, there are many other repeaters and nets that can be 
>>> reached and when these start to get annoying, I tend to just turn the dial. 
>>> The BVARC net is still a great place to check in and participate, but who 
>>> really wants to deal with On the Air Drama? 
>>>  
>>> I think there are a few that need to rework their expectations of the hobby 
>>> and learn how to listen before they key the mic. That has probably always 
>>> been true. I am sure we have scared off more than one XYL in our days.  
>>>  
>>> If anyone has forgotten this is a hobby and supposed to be fun, then I 
>>> think you might not be doing it right. If you got your feelings hurt and 
>>> need an apology then ask for one or turn the dial. It"s really not the end 
>>> of the world. 
>>>  
>>> BVARC is a great club and the net is as it will be. Drawing in huge numbers 
>>> seems like a good thing, but it really depends on the night and what is 
>>> happening at the time. As far as I know there is not an official quota for 
>>> net participation. I don't ever recall having 90 people show up for a BVARC 
>>> net. That would be ridiculous. I think I am good for about 20 minutes on a 
>>> good day. I have always found the BVARC net as warm and inviting as any on 
>>> the air. We have great topics and run through an efficient program. 
>>> Feedback is always a good thing, but it should be constructive and help 
>>> move things forward. 
>>>  
>>> Have Fun,
>>> Jeff
>>> KC5TT 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 10:53 AM K5IZO via BVARC < [email protected]> wrote:
>>> Radio Hotel has already said that he will update the script late this week. 
>>>  I’m sure he appreciates all the comments made for possible inclusion in 
>>> the revised script. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 4, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Eddie Runner via BVARC < [email protected]> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Dave...  Read the script, it is old and needs to be redone...
>>>>  
>>>> Parts of it are not even valid..     The net control has to ad-lib a lot 
>>>> of it
>>>> and all net controllers do it a little different....
>>>>  
>>>> in fact part of the script reads
>>>> You do not have to follow the script word for word. Relax, this is a 
>>>> hobby. 
>>>> If you are going to pick on Dwayne, you have to pick on everyone...
>>>> mostly board members that dont even read the script thats on the website...
>>>> if any board member had read it recently I am sure it would be changed!!!!
>>>>  
>>>> Yes, we should make everyone feel welcome....  Rewrite the script,
>>>> coach the net control operators..
>>>>  
>>>> Dont complain about a volunteer which this club is lucky to have...
>>>> Thanks to Dwayne, this problem might finally get fixed.. 
>>>>  
>>>> Eddie Runner (NU5K)
>>>> Im the web guy, it is my job to make folks feel welcome, and sometimes
>>>> I appreciate other folks guiding me along that path....
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 09:09:41 PM CDT, DAVID ELY < 
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> As a BVARC board member, I am concerned that anyone should be discouraged 
>>>> from any of our activities.
>>>> There is NOTHING is the Monday Night or daily STIR CRAZY scripts that 
>>>> states that "In-and-Outs" are to be excluded so don't bother to check in.
>>>> As one of the net controls, I have often experienced operators who checked 
>>>> into the net as a "In-and Out" later come back to participate.
>>>> As net control operators, we need to be mindful that we are the voice of 
>>>> BVARC,
>>>> To those who were offended by this incident, please accept my apology that 
>>>> you were discouraged from checking into one of our nets.
>>>> I can assure you that I will address this occurrence at the upcoming 
>>>> meeting of the BVARC Board of Directors.
>>>>  
>>>> 73,
>>>> Dave Ely - N5EKW
>>>>  
>>>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 2:38:00 PM CDT, Eddie Runner via BVARC < 
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Rodney, and the club
>>>> I am a long long time BVARCer, but I am not a BVARC board member, and I 
>>>> have never been
>>>> net control..
>>>>  
>>>> I agree with your points!
>>>> I think the club needs to refresh the outline and goals for the monday 
>>>> night net.
>>>>  
>>>> Years ago it was more fun...     The same net controller DWAYNE (KB5YTA) 
>>>> used to do the net EVERY MONDAY.. 
>>>>  
>>>> Now I think they rotate and its once a month...
>>>>  
>>>> I can remember Dwayne pulling in 80 or nearly 90 checkins each net... 
>>>> It was a ritual to get checked in on the monday night net.
>>>>  
>>>> Nowdays we are lucky to get 20ish checkins...  
>>>>  
>>>> And your points may be part of the problem!!
>>>>  
>>>> The net has changed...  
>>>>  
>>>> My wife as well (KF5GWZ) told me to check her in last night... I didnt 
>>>> bother doing so
>>>> nor did I check myself in....
>>>>  
>>>> Don't lay it all on Dwayne, he is a volunteer, he is doing what he thinks 
>>>> is good.. 
>>>> We are lucky to have volunteers like Dwayne...
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks for voicing your opinions..
>>>> Maybe these messages will change things..  
>>>> Dont give up.. !!
>>>>  
>>>> Eddie Runner (NU5K)
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> On Monday, August 2, 2021, 09:32:22 PM CDT, rodney martinez via BVARC < 
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> So I have an issue here about tonight's Net Control management.
>>>>  
>>>> He starts off the check-ins basically saying that if you don't have 
>>>> anything to contribute, don't bother checking in.  Then later in the 
>>>> transmissions he basically said to one check-in that he didn't want 
>>>> "check-ins, and outs". 
>>>>  
>>>> BVARC Team, this is not right.  Many people want to check in to register 
>>>> their monitoring of the net.  Many of them just want to listen and LEARN.  
>>>> I had my General Class wife all set up to check in for the first time.  
>>>> After she heard that, she just went into the next room.  She wants to drop 
>>>> her membership now.  I don't think some  board members will really care.  
>>>> I know one wont.  And telling the one person that he was dis-invited from 
>>>> doing a "Check-in, Check out" was out of line in my opinion.  He probably 
>>>> just wanted to be a part of the BVARC team.  Do you seriously think he 
>>>> will contribute in the future after that embarrassment?
>>>>  
>>>> If BVARC wants new members, or to retain current members, we need to be 
>>>> more inclusive, and allow new members to at least try to be inclusive.  We 
>>>> are not a military operation.  I served, and know the difference.  We are 
>>>> a club of Hams that want to have fun.
>>>>  
>>>> Please straighten this out, or post your rules for what any Hams can, or 
>>>> cannot say in check-ins.  But please, lighten up, and allow new Hams to 
>>>> become happily participating members.
>>>>  
>>>> 73,
>>>>  
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Rodney J. Martinez
>>>> Intellitech Automation, Inc.
>>>> 832-423-5640 (Cellphone)
>>>> 8816-326-49843 (Satphone) 
>>>> NK5Q (Ham Callsign)
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> On Sunday, July 25, 2021, 4:18:40 PM CDT, Rick Hiller via BVARC < 
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
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