The carbon fiber masts offered by Gigaparts looks really great but they’ve 
doubled in price over the past year. I think Jason at Ham Radio 2.0 has a YT 
video on them. 

JP

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> On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Neal Naumann via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I would plead Ingorance to permits.  I grew up in "the country " .  I never 
> heard of getting a permit to do stuff.  I just do it.
> 
> Are you saying I need a permit to put up a TV antenna?  I imagine I will look 
> for direction if that is the case.  But not until it seems to really matter.
> 
> Neal N5EN 
> 
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> From: BVARC <[email protected]> on behalf of Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN 
> via BVARC <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 10:17:26 AM
> To: Neal Naumann via BVARC <[email protected]>
> Cc: Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] masts & towers
>  
> Did you permit the project to erect a tower and antenna?
> 
>> On 3/31/2022 9:41 AM, Neal Naumann via BVARC wrote:
>> A TV antenna is permitted by law (which was drafted by the advertisers 
>> running ads on the over the air television stations).   My Hygain TH-3JRS is 
>> is TV antenna.   33 feet is a height I require for good reception. 
>> 
>> A flagpole is permitted by law.  If you choose to run a wire to it is your 
>> choice.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Neal N5EN 
>> 
>> 
>> From: BVARC <[email protected]> on behalf of Jeff Greer via BVARC 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022, 9:16 AM
>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Jeff Greer <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] masts & towers
>> 
>> Well, my CC&Rs are not vague - they say explicitly no antennas unless we're 
>> required to allow the antenna by law.  Having said that, I already have an 
>> antenna for HF.  There will be one for VHF and UHF.  The question is about 
>> how to build it...
>> 
>> I think I've settled on doing the tetherball base.  Now I just need to 
>> figure out if it will be a push up mast, a crank up mast, a tilt over mast, 
>> or some combination, and I need to figure out what to make it out of...  
>> Lighter is better, I think, as it'll be less likely to cause damage should 
>> it ever blow over (or get knocked over).  I may put this thing between my 
>> house and the neighbor's house, and I don't want it breaking stuff.  I was 
>> looking at carbon fiber telescoping masts last night, and that may be a good 
>> option.  They're pricey, which I'm not thrilled about, but they are 
>> supposedly stronger/stiffer than aluminum.
>> 
>> -j
>> 
>> From: Neal Naumann <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 7:05 AM
>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Jeff Greer <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: masts & towers
>>  
>> If you attend any area Hamfest with an ARRL forum, John Stratton N5AUS (ARRL 
>> board member and civil trial attorney) will tell you that an HOA is no 
>> excuse for putting up an antenna.  He can feed you ammunition if there is an 
>> issue with your HOA.
>> 
>> My HOA has a vague statement about antennas 10 ft higher than the highest 
>> point on my house.  With that in mind and a "it's better to ask forgiveness 
>> than permission " attitude, for the past 20 years I have had antennas up to 
>> 20 ft in height attached yp my chimney.   This past year I got tired of 
>> dealing with my extension ladder and put four sections of Motorola/ Rohn 35 
>> in the ground about 6 feet.  So that's about 34 feet above ground.  I 
>> recently came across a good deal on a Hygain TH-3JRS and I also have a 4 
>> element 2 meter beam side mounted.  
>> 
>> I have never received a complaint... except for grass growing in the 
>> sidewalk cracks.
>> 
>> I also converted my 10 meter 5/8 wave Siro Toronado to a 30 meters and it's 
>> mounted on a 10 ft pole, so that's also about 35' to the top.  My 12 meter 
>> diy vertical is also at about 30 feet.  I'm working on a 60 meter vertical 
>> that will use an insulated push-up pole that will be about 43' high.
>> 
>> According to N5AUS,  all property owners in the United States are guaranteed 
>> the right to display Ol' Glory.  That flag pole can be 33 feet tall and have 
>> coax attached.
>> 
>> I hate stupid rules and enjoy pushing the limits.  Some people drive the 
>> speed limit - I never have.  
>> 
>> For those that say "don't buy a house in a HOA"  - I challenge you to 
>> purchase a (decent and reasonably priced) house in the Houston area, in an 
>> acceptable school district, and close to work, that's not in an HOA.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Neal N5EN 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: BVARC <[email protected]> on behalf of Jeff Greer via BVARC 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 3:02 PM
>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Jeff Greer <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [BVARC] masts & towers
>> 
>> Hi, BVARC!
>> 
>> I'm curious as to what others are doing for masts/towers.  I'm in an HOA 
>> ("no antennas") with a tiny little yard.  Nobody has complained so far about 
>> my homebrew "DX Commander" style fan vertical, which looks like a 31' 
>> jackite pole (because that's pretty much what it is, with some 3d-printed 
>> wire spreaders).  I was holding that up w/ a 5' piece of 3/4 copper water 
>> pipe driven halfway into the ground.  Worked for several months, but the 
>> wind finally bent the pipe.  I have some 5' electrical conduit that looks a 
>> little tougher, but I may resort to guying.  The metal inside the bottom of 
>> the fiberglass pole, I suspect, interferes with my 10m element, anyway...
>> 
>> I'm also wanting to put my Ed Fong DBJ-1 (which looks like a 5' PVC pipe) up 
>> with the feedpoint 25-30'.  I picked up a couple of old tires, and I'm 
>> thinking of filling one with concrete (think tetherball pole) and mounting a 
>> couple of pieces of angle iron in the concrete, so I can drill holes, put 
>> some sort of mast between them, and make a "tilt over" base/hinge for the 
>> mast.  Has anybody built a self-supporting (non-guyed) 30 foot mast out of, 
>> say, some sort of stock from Home Depot/Lowe's?  The internet has lots of 
>> stories about using chain link fence top rail (10' sections), but most say 
>> that 2 of those (20') is all you join before it gets super wobbly.  Would 
>> love to use some sort of square tube - maybe nesting sections - but not sure 
>> where to get 10' sections, and not sure aluminum would be strong enough or 
>> steel would be light enough...
>> 
>> Anyway, that's where I am.  I thought I'd float this out there to benefit 
>> from the experience of those who have been there and done that.  Hope y'all 
>> can help me come up with something that will work while avoiding poor 
>> choices that could cause damage or hurt somebody.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -Jeff, W5JEF
>> 
>> 
>> 
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