I thought the price looked a little high.  Still, though, light is good, if 
it's still strong.  The antenna itself weighs under a pound, and I like the 
idea of limiting the damage it could do should it fail (structurally).  This 
may be the way to go.
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From: BVARC <[email protected]> on behalf of JP Pritchard via BVARC 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 12:27 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
Cc: JP Pritchard <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BVARC] masts & towers

The carbon fiber masts offered by Gigaparts looks really great but they’ve 
doubled in price over the past year. I think Jason at Ham Radio 2.0 has a YT 
video on them.

JP

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On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Neal Naumann via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:


I would plead Ingorance to permits.  I grew up in "the country " .  I never 
heard of getting a permit to do stuff.  I just do it.

Are you saying I need a permit to put up a TV antenna?  I imagine I will look 
for direction if that is the case.  But not until it seems to really matter.

Neal N5EN



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BVARC <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 10:17:26 AM
To: Neal Naumann via BVARC <[email protected]>
Cc: Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BVARC] masts & towers


Did you permit the project to erect a tower and antenna?

On 3/31/2022 9:41 AM, Neal Naumann via BVARC wrote:
A TV antenna is permitted by law (which was drafted by the advertisers running 
ads on the over the air television stations).   My Hygain TH-3JRS is is TV 
antenna.   33 feet is a height I require for good reception.

A flagpole is permitted by law.  If you choose to run a wire to it is your 
choice.

73,

Neal N5EN


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From: BVARC <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> on behalf 
of Jeff Greer via BVARC <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022, 9:16 AM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: Jeff Greer <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BVARC] masts & towers

Well, my CC&Rs are not vague - they say explicitly no antennas unless we're 
required to allow the antenna by law.  Having said that, I already have an 
antenna for HF.  There will be one for VHF and UHF.  The question is about how 
to build it...

I think I've settled on doing the tetherball base.  Now I just need to figure 
out if it will be a push up mast, a crank up mast, a tilt over mast, or some 
combination, and I need to figure out what to make it out of...  Lighter is 
better, I think, as it'll be less likely to cause damage should it ever blow 
over (or get knocked over).  I may put this thing between my house and the 
neighbor's house, and I don't want it breaking stuff.  I was looking at carbon 
fiber telescoping masts last night, and that may be a good option.  They're 
pricey, which I'm not thrilled about, but they are supposedly stronger/stiffer 
than aluminum.

-j

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From: Neal Naumann <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 7:05 AM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: Jeff Greer <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: masts & towers

If you attend any area Hamfest with an ARRL forum, John Stratton N5AUS (ARRL 
board member and civil trial attorney) will tell you that an HOA is no excuse 
for putting up an antenna.  He can feed you ammunition if there is an issue 
with your HOA.

My HOA has a vague statement about antennas 10 ft higher than the highest point 
on my house.  With that in mind and a "it's better to ask forgiveness than 
permission " attitude, for the past 20 years I have had antennas up to 20 ft in 
height attached yp my chimney.   This past year I got tired of dealing with my 
extension ladder and put four sections of Motorola/ Rohn 35 in the ground about 
6 feet.  So that's about 34 feet above ground.  I recently came across a good 
deal on a Hygain TH-3JRS and I also have a 4 element 2 meter beam side mounted.

I have never received a complaint... except for grass growing in the sidewalk 
cracks.

I also converted my 10 meter 5/8 wave Siro Toronado to a 30 meters and it's 
mounted on a 10 ft pole, so that's also about 35' to the top.  My 12 meter diy 
vertical is also at about 30 feet.  I'm working on a 60 meter vertical that 
will use an insulated push-up pole that will be about 43' high.

According to N5AUS,  all property owners in the United States are guaranteed 
the right to display Ol' Glory.  That flag pole can be 33 feet tall and have 
coax attached.

I hate stupid rules and enjoy pushing the limits.  Some people drive the speed 
limit - I never have.

For those that say "don't buy a house in a HOA"  - I challenge you to purchase 
a (decent and reasonably priced) house in the Houston area, in an acceptable 
school district, and close to work, that's not in an HOA.

73,

Neal N5EN



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From: BVARC <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> on behalf 
of Jeff Greer via BVARC <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 3:02 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: Jeff Greer <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [BVARC] masts & towers

Hi, BVARC!

I'm curious as to what others are doing for masts/towers.  I'm in an HOA ("no 
antennas") with a tiny little yard.  Nobody has complained so far about my 
homebrew "DX Commander" style fan vertical, which looks like a 31' jackite pole 
(because that's pretty much what it is, with some 3d-printed wire spreaders).  
I was holding that up w/ a 5' piece of 3/4 copper water pipe driven halfway 
into the ground.  Worked for several months, but the wind finally bent the 
pipe.  I have some 5' electrical conduit that looks a little tougher, but I may 
resort to guying.  The metal inside the bottom of the fiberglass pole, I 
suspect, interferes with my 10m element, anyway...

I'm also wanting to put my Ed Fong DBJ-1 (which looks like a 5' PVC pipe) up 
with the feedpoint 25-30'.  I picked up a couple of old tires, and I'm thinking 
of filling one with concrete (think tetherball pole) and mounting a couple of 
pieces of angle iron in the concrete, so I can drill holes, put some sort of 
mast between them, and make a "tilt over" base/hinge for the mast.  Has anybody 
built a self-supporting (non-guyed) 30 foot mast out of, say, some sort of 
stock from Home Depot/Lowe's?  The internet has lots of stories about using 
chain link fence top rail (10' sections), but most say that 2 of those (20') is 
all you join before it gets super wobbly.  Would love to use some sort of 
square tube - maybe nesting sections - but not sure where to get 10' sections, 
and not sure aluminum would be strong enough or steel would be light enough...

Anyway, that's where I am.  I thought I'd float this out there to benefit from 
the experience of those who have been there and done that.  Hope y'all can help 
me come up with something that will work while avoiding poor choices that could 
cause damage or hurt somebody.

Thanks!

-Jeff, W5JEF





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