nneff wrote:
>> Dropped by the shop this evening.  Instead of creating two drives, 
>> I copied both images and all the scripts that are used for cloning 
>> onto a single 10 GB drive.  The disk is labeled with your name on 
>> it and is on the desk next to the phone.
> 
> Thanks, Robert (wow, that's fast) I'll pick it up tomorrow.

Yes, copying two 3 GB images over firewire to a 10 GB drive takes about
6 minutes or approximately 1 GB per minute.  Which reminds me, I need to
update the script for cloning to include a block size > 4k.  Specifying
a block size increases the data transfer rate by about 5-fold.  So, what
used to take 30 minutes to clone, now takes only about 6 minutes.

> I should wait until then, but I'm Torrenting it right now and will
> probably install tonight, and give results tomorow.

I'd be interesting to compare.  Keep in mind that the "stable" you are
downloading is Etch and not Sarge, which is what we are using for the
students.

> In addition, I'll VM your Kubuntu release, and compare.

FYI, the image is that of a partition and not of an entire disk.  You'll
still need to install a boot loader and may have to adjust
/boot/grub/menu.lst accordingly.  If you attach the drive via an
external USB adapter, then you can make it visible from within VMWare to
the VM.  Have a look at this script for cloning the image using Knoppix:

http://bworksshop.pbwiki.com/Cloning%20Linux

> I'd like to use Ubuntu for kids' machines, but we need to do a 
> side-by-side comparison on an actual machine that's spec'd for 
> Byteworks.  Theresa mentioned that the Ubuntu package was noticeably 
> slower on a sample machine.  Also, the Debian package contains a lot 
> of stuff, which, for people with 28/56k download speed is fine 
> because you'd rather have it pre-installed rather than force them to 
> download.

The Kubuntu image I created has some tweaks to make it run a little
faster.  For example, kpersonalizer is installed and the settings have
been set to fewest bells-and-whistles, something that we did in the
Debian install and something the default Kubuntu does not do.
Unfortunately, I don't know how the Ubuntu used in the comparison that
Theresa references was installed and configured.  My notes are here:

http://bworksshop.pbwiki.com/Robert%20Citek#SpeedingupKubuntu

They are sparse and not nearly as complete as the Debian install notes.
 Nevertheless, I'm anxious to try out the Kubuntu image and also try a
few more tweaks.

> I have some rants regarding the Ubuntu upgrades.  For example, a 
> couple of nights ago, I had my GNOME fried by an "upgrade", and I 
> wasted 2-3 hours trying to fix that.  The Ubuntu forums are wonderful
>  (that's where I found the fix), but at the same time, there really 
> *is* something to be said for a stable upgrade process. :)

Which version of Ubuntu?

> Here's my Ubuntu experiences, please keep in mind that this is a page
>  in work, and desperately needs reformatting and more details: 
> http://notesmine.com/ubuntu

>From a browse through the page, it looks like your running Edgy, yes?

Regards,
- Robert

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