Peter Tribble wrote:
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Shawn Walker <swalker at opensolaris.org> 
> wrote:
>> My problem with that is you could use that logic to justify any
>> configuration changes a person might need to make during install.
> 
> Not any; just those necessary to make the system come up correctly
> on the network in a state that means you can connect to it or manage it
> remotely.

Which may or may not even be possible at the time of installation.

To you network setup is important, to another person, X configuration is 
important.

>> It also complicates the install process from both a technical and user
>> perspective.
> 
> It shouldn't be complicated at all. From a user (enterprise user) perspective,
> the uncomplicated route is single pass through all the questions up front.

But that also causes duplication of all of the various network 
configuration programs / applications that are provided for the user 
after the system has started.

>> I understand why you desire it to be part of the install process, but I tend
>> to agree with the original philosophy behind caiman that tends towards
>> configuration-less install.
> 
> I wouldn't use it myself either way, but having seen how other people get
> systems installed and configured, it seems to me that having the configuration
> questions asked up front would be what's expected. Although I'm shocked
> at how manually intensive some of those processes are. The point being that
> you have to fit in with how users (customers!) work, rather than dictating to
> them.

There's a give and take to that though.  If you give users exactly what 
they ask for, you'll often end up with a poorly designed and implemented 
system.  Or even though you implement something exactly how it was asked 
for, they'll come back and say "that isn't what I asked for!" :)

Sometimes users must adapt as well as the system.

-- 
Shawn Walker

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