That's generally a point made against Open Source -- except that closed 
source stuff gets pushed back all the time, and is released very buggy. 
In my experience, when there's a bug in Open Source, we can either fix 
it or get it fixed within 48 hours -- closed source, we're lucky if our 
vendors can supply a solution in 48 DAYS.

Hanzgroove wrote:
> I think that this is the downside to Open Source in general. There's
> no one there to police any sort of deadline or release schedule.
>
> For example, back in JANUARY I asked this question:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Does anyone know when Cake 1.2 will be officially released for a
> production?
>
> I'm going to be starting development on a new project within a few
> weeks. One thing that I would like to avoid is having to mess around
> with the usual hacks for pagination and validation. It seems that Cake
> 1.2 has solved these problems. However, I haven't seen an expected
> release date for a stable version of 1.2.
>
> Anyone have a guesstimate?
>
> Thanks...
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Nate responded with:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ETA: When it's ready.
>
> We don't make predictions or estimates on when things will be
> released.
>  However, all the Cake sites are based on 1.2, and the trunk release
> is
> generally stable.  With this dev release, the issue isn't stability,
> it's the fact that we haven't finalized the API yet, so as long as
> you're comfortable with having to tweak your code between now and the
> beta, you should be fine using it.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Here we are 6 months later and at least from my perspective, I'm still
> in the same position
> with Cake 1.2. So all the new commercial/production sites I've built
> have had to use Cake 1.1 including all the ugly
> hacks for paging, auth, etc. 6 months later, just to move from 1.1 to
> 1.2. Its pretty frustrating.
>
> Add on the lack of documentation, and it makes me wonder if my
> donations to the Cake project
> are just allowing these guys to procrastinate more. If you're willing
> to accept my donations, you should
> be equally as ready to accept my criticism. Come on guys, as a
> "customer", 6 months later is a bit much.
> Considering there are several guys on the team, I don't understand
> what the delay is for 1.2 or at least decent
> documentation for it.
>
> Sorry to sound like a jerk but I'm sure all the end users of the Cake
> framework can relate to the same frustration.
>
>
> >
>   

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