While I agree that it's a scary place to work for that doesn't see the
benefits of following standards and using frameworks, here's how I'd
word it: using CakePHP lets you do make the same site in far less time
(at least, it does once you're used to it, maybe for the third project
onwards). It's kind of like having a whole team of invisible
programmers at your disposal, working for free.

It also means that if a client changes their mind about how they want
the site to work (and they will if you don't put your foot down),
making those changes will be almost as quick and easy as they assume
it is, for once.

For example, the other week a client decided to suddenly change the
spec on a site that was nearly live. They wanted to change a static
list of things into a fully back-office-managed list that they could
add to, delete from, rename all the things on the list, and so on.
Creating the table and changing a column in the database, and pretty
much copying and pasting the code and changing a few variable and
class names here and there took all of about maybe twenty minutes.
Without CakePHP, it would have been maybe half a day's work.

At least, that's how I like to feel about it, although it almost makes
me feel guilty that I'm not paying the CakePHP developers an hourly
rate while I work. :)

Hope that helps,
Zoe.
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