By "crap" I was referring to more than just merely being twirled / dipped
when they didn't want it.

What segregation of lines happens at Glen Echo?

-Ron

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Perry Shafran <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am curious - is this seen more often in women than it is in men playing
> the role of the woman?  I've been the woman a number of times in dances,
> and I do see the pushiness of some males - twirling me when I don't want to
> be twirled, even being subject to a (small) dip one time.  Generally though
> (at least in my home communities) I'm not subject to this.  It also doesn't
> SEEM like women are resigned to pushy males - most ladies I see seem to
> enjoy their twirls and dips - but that could be due to the segregation of
> lines that has occurred, at least at Glen Echo.
>
> Perry
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Ron T Blechner <[email protected]>
> To: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Callers] women's experiences
>
> I've been having conversations with a lot of my female friends in the dance
> community over the past 6 months over their experiences as women. I won't
> make a lengthy itemization of what I've found, because I think it's
> something every caller should do for themself, however, the one thought I'd
> share is the one I find most disappointing:
> - Women have expressed that they put up with far more crap from pushy males
> than I personally would put up with had the situation be reversed; there is
> a far more prevalent sense of resignation of "that's just how things are /
> it's not so bad" than I had believed.
>
> in dance,
> Ron
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jan 06, 2013, Tom Hinds wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven't been following this topic of lead/follow at all but Bree's
> > > statement really caught my eye.  I'm very curious to know what it's
> > > like to dance as a women with men who have a wide range of skills
> > > and personalities.
> > >
> > > I should set aside an evening and dance disguised as a women to
> > > really understand what the experience is like.
> >
> > Unless you have experience cross-dressing (i.e. can successfully
> > disguise yourself), your experience will almost certainly be somewhat
> > different from a woman's.  I definitely get treated somewhat differently
> > by men.
> >
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