Barb, At the risk of me sounding stupid, I'll ask, because I think it will help provide good perspective. Feel free to answer less than all of them, as I'm asking a lot of questions: - For how long has this gone on? - What immediate reactions do you get from dancers when you ask them to stop yanking you around? - Have you considered talking to dance organizers? Have you talked to them? What was their response? - Does this happen at some dances more than others? What common factors seem to go along with the problem? What common factors seem to go along with a dance with less of this problem?
in dance, Ron On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:26 AM, barb kirchner <[email protected]>wrote: > > when i am able to dance these days, i almost always dance the gent's role. > i have a problem with my right foot and too many guys just don't pick up > on signals and it gets tiring for me to tell people to stop yanking me > around. but even when i was a dancing fanatic, there were experienced men i > never danced with because they were absolutely sure they could throw me > around no matter how many times i asked them not to. > yup, at some dances, it's just how things are. on the other hand, i've > been to plenty of dances where i've been treated courteously and > appropriately, so i tend to think it is the culture of the particular dance > community or region. cheers,barb > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 06:04:16 -0800 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Callers] women's experiences > > > > I am curious - is this seen more often in women than it is in men > playing the role of the woman? I've been the woman a number of times in > dances, and I do see the pushiness of some males - twirling me when I don't > want to be twirled, even being subject to a (small) dip one time. > Generally though (at least in my home communities) I'm not subject to > this. It also doesn't SEEM like women are resigned to pushy males - most > ladies I see seem to enjoy their twirls and dips - but that could be due to > the segregation of lines that has occurred, at least at Glen Echo. > > > > Perry > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ron T Blechner <[email protected]> > > To: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 8:45 AM > > Subject: Re: [Callers] women's experiences > > > > I've been having conversations with a lot of my female friends in the > dance > > community over the past 6 months over their experiences as women. I won't > > make a lengthy itemization of what I've found, because I think it's > > something every caller should do for themself, however, the one thought > I'd > > share is the one I find most disappointing: > > - Women have expressed that they put up with far more crap from pushy > males > > than I personally would put up with had the situation be reversed; there > is > > a far more prevalent sense of resignation of "that's just how things are > / > > it's not so bad" than I had believed. > > > > in dance, > > Ron > > > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jan 06, 2013, Tom Hinds wrote: > > > > > > > > I haven't been following this topic of lead/follow at all but Bree's > > > > statement really caught my eye. I'm very curious to know what it's > > > > like to dance as a women with men who have a wide range of skills > > > > and personalities. > > > > > > > > I should set aside an evening and dance disguised as a women to > > > > really understand what the experience is like. > > > > > > Unless you have experience cross-dressing (i.e. can successfully > > > disguise yourself), your experience will almost certainly be somewhat > > > different from a woman's. I definitely get treated somewhat > differently > > > by men. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Callers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > _______________________________________________ > > Callers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >
