I, luckily, never get tired of this conversation as I feel that it’s really important and I feel that it is as yet unresolved. I find it heartening and fascinating that we all are still engaged in this, working so hard to find a solution. It’s also one of my favorite moves.
So, that said, I wonder what others think of the suggestion earlier today, “Look-see”. Is it too “twee”? It feels good to me, both descriptive of the essence of the move - eye contact - and easy to say. And I think you could maybe make it meet the noun/verb criterion, with some wiggling. > On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Ric Goldman - Letsdance via Callers > <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > Hi Kalia, > > I independently came up with using kipsie myself on the way down to calling > the Palo Alto contra. I tried it out with dancers before the dance and > during the lesson. The overall response was negative. 2 comments came back > as: "You're just trying to not say gypsy, so it's still offensive". I ended > up using right-shoulder round during the dance and got further feedback > during the break and after the dance. Again, kipsey got a bad response, > although that may be because it was new. I think folks are getting a lot of > replacement-term fatigue ("what, now this?"). Right-shoulder round seemed > to be the preferred term amongst the dancers themselves - they claim to > understand it best. Still, I'm not giving up quite yet. 😊 > > (Note, the PA Contra doesn't yet have an official policy banning the g-word. > They leave it up to the caller.) > > Thanx, Ric Goldman > Portland, OR > > P.S. And NO, Kipsey is not an ethnic slur against people from Poughkeepsie, > New York. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Callers <callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net> On Behalf Of Kalia > Kliban via Callers > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:53 AM > To: email@example.com > Subject: Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word > > On 3/13/2018 11:02 AM, Martha Wild via Callers wrote: >> Interesting discussion on the Portland Country Dance Community >> Facebook page. Lots of great suggestions. A lot of people really don’t >> like “right shoulder round” (I’m one of them). I tried one of their >> suggestions last night - Kipsey - and it worked amazingly well. > > I've been using "R/L shoulders around" since it has, at least so far, been > preferable to the alternatives. The big advantage of the word "gypsy" is > that it's both a noun and a verb, so you can say "gypsy your neighbor" or > "dance a mirror gypsy with your partner." RSA is more cumbersome and less > flexible. > > Gotta say, I really like "kipsey." A lot. It's the first alternative I've > heard that scratches the same itch as "gypsy" without being excessively twee > or hard to say or hard to hear. > > Other CA Bay Area callers on the list, what do you think about this > possibility? > > Kalia > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://firstname.lastname@example.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://email@example.com/ <>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<> Delia Clark PO Box 45 Taftsville, VT 05073 Office/mobile: +1-802-457-2075 deliacla...@gmail.com www.deliaclarkconfluence.com
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