Now is the discussion turning to me again?
On Sep 17, 2:07 pm, [email protected] wrote: > How do you justisfy the use of "f" word? > > On Sep 16, 7:37 pm, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The Cambodian people had been fucking your families for almost four > > years. > > They then killed most of them directly or indirectly. > > Those killers happen to be Cambodians. > > How do you respond to that? > > > On Sep 13, 5:43 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > How would you response to the slur, if the victim is your mother, your > > > grand mother, your sister, your daughter, your wife ...? > > > > On Sep 13, 7:36 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 12, 3:23 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > My Letter to Mr. Hem Heng in Washington > > > > > DC.<http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2009/09/my-letter-to-mr-hem...> > > > > > Dear > > > > > Mr. Hem Heng, > > > > > > Mr.Hem, your long description is just the excuse, or I can say it is > > > > > really > > > > > unproductive excuse. Your statement has created only more conflicts > > > > > among > > > > > our Cambodian people. You should use your own intelligence to surpass > > > > > other > > > > > CPP's idea on how to rebut criticism in a productive way. > > > > > Can you give us your explanation why you say it as excuses and > > > > unproductive excuses? > > > > Can you tell us why you think that the statement would create more > > > > conflicts? > > > > Can you explain to us why he should use his intellingence to surpass > > > > other CPPs idea since he is representing CPP? > > > > > > I am so impressed with your response to the Tom Lantos > > > > > <http://ki-media.blogspot.com/2009/09/hun-xens-barking-mouthpiece-in.html>Human > > > > > Rights Commission Hearing in the US. > > > > > And why did you disagree or dislike it? > > > > > > Again, all your description, if it was true, it is the outcome from > > > > > the > > > > > Paris Peace Accord, not from the Vietnamese occupation. But frankly, > > > > > I do > > > > > accept the truth that Vietnamese occupation has given you and Hun Sen > > > > > the > > > > > power and wealth today not the nation and Cambodian people. For > > > > > general > > > > > Cambodians, they has just escaped from the crocodile (KR) but slip > > > > > into the > > > > > mouth of tiger (Vietnam). Paris Peace Accord on 23 October 1993 has > > > > > given > > > > > second life for all Cambodians. > > > > > Are you trying to tell us that Cambodia IS NOT better than it used to > > > > be twenty years ago? > > > > Do you still believe that Vietnamese is still occupying Cambodia in > > > > secret as many Cambodians have been saying ? > > > > > > However, the outcome of Paris Peace Accord has been badly evaluated > > > > > by many > > > > > scholars and observers under the leadership of current Cambodian > > > > > administration. Scholars and observers have cordially described the > > > > > backwardness of democracy development, rampant corruption, human > > > > > rights > > > > > violation, limited freedom of expression, and killing perpetrators > > > > > are still > > > > > free of trial (impunity). > > > > > Why are you saying that? > > > > Do you think that the right way for Cambodia is the way that you like? > > > > Is it wrong when it's not the one you like? > > > > > > Mr.Hem, your long description is just the excuse, or I can say it is > > > > > really > > > > > unproductive excuse. Your statement has created only more conflicts > > > > > among > > > > > our Cambodian people. You should use your own intelligence to surpass > > > > > other > > > > > CPP's idea on how to rebut criticism in a productive way. > > > > > Please explain it to us. > > > > All people can say this thing is white. But they need to explain it > > > > why it's white when they don't like it. > > > > Now it's your turn. Can you explain it to us why you said that the > > > > statement is unproductive and excuses? > > > > > > You merely said there thousand NGOs spread entire Cambodia, but you > > > > > didn't > > > > > elaborate how hurtful those NGOs are struggling inside Cambodia in > > > > > working > > > > > with the dominate political party. You said there is peace and > > > > > security in > > > > > Cambodia, but you didn't elaborate that this peace and security is not > > > > > having principle of democracy and the rule of law. So it is different > > > > > only > > > > > from the Khmer Rouge regime. Or your task as well as CPP's task is to > > > > > develop something better than KR regime only. I am really curious > > > > > with this > > > > > concept regarding CPP's intelligence. > > > > > So in your mind, everything should go the way those organizations and > > > > people want in their own individual mind? > > > > Americans blasted China about these things twenty years ago. Yet, > > > > China still acted as they had been for a very long time. > > > > Today, China is a great country in their own way. Yet, China is a > > > > great partner with America. > > > > What happened to those accusations? Have they forgotten since China is > > > > a great partner? > > > > > > You said in this world especially in developed countries, the > > > > > powerful men > > > > > (or leaders) sued their people or others with the verdict of > > > > > defamation, and > > > > > again, your statement is absolutely wrong and unproductive. You have > > > > > never > > > > > assured to having our leaders practice tolerance, but you supported > > > > > the > > > > > intolerance of the leaders. As I know, and many more evidences, your > > > > > statement is not right. In developed countries, the leaders have never > > > > > merely sued their people because of speech and expression. > > > > > Journalists badly > > > > > criticized their public leaders, only a few cases relating personal > > > > > and > > > > > social security needed clarification and correction from those > > > > > journalists. > > > > > My friend, > > > > Look at the cases. Look at the case of Mu. > > > > What happened? > > > > Mu Sued Hun Sen without any ground except hearsay and sentiments. > > > > Then Hun Sen slapped her with the same kind of lawsuit. > > > > Why is it unfair? Mu started it, not Hun Sen. How intelligent is Mu? > > > > Ofcourse she is an intelligent woman. She did it in the act of her > > > > activism. She wanted to demonstate her will against Hun Sen and his > > > > government. It was not that she was a victim of something. She created > > > > this environment. Hun Sen reacted to it with determination to destroy > > > > Mu. With his position, Mu was crushed because she did it without any > > > > ground or foundation except her activism. One cannot win with hearsay > > > > and actimvism. > > > > > > The court in those countries have never taken seriously into any > > > > > verdict of > > > > > expression if it doesn't physically injure. You are living in the US, > > > > > have > > > > > you ever opened your eyes and ears to see the truth in the US, if you > > > > > swear > > > > > or talk bad to someone, the court cannot take that as evidence, but > > > > > if there > > > > > was scar of injury physically, that could be the acceptable > > > > > allegation. > > > > > So are you telling us that Cambodia SHOULD BE a country like America? > > > > Please tell us about Mu's story in your own words from your own mind. > > > > I don't see Mu as a victim. Actually, Mu is a political activist, not > > > > a serious politician who wants to lead her people for better future. > > > > Actually, she wants to lead her people to be activist against her own > > > > government. Is that healthy for Cambodia? In my belief, it is not. > > > > Mu's activism leads to seperation and division of the Cambodian > > > > society. It means the same way to Sam Rainsy. All of their activities > > > > are based on activism. They have no intention to unite with their own > > > > people. They want to destroy others for their own indulgement. They > > > > use democracy to hide their ugly truth. They don't have any intention > > > > to help the change to better Cambodia. They want to destroy others so > > > > they can change Cambodia to what they believe it's a democratic > > > > society. That's wrong. They use democracy to hide their ugly truth to > > > > keep the division among Cambodians. > > > > > > Mu Sochua has been publicly twisted by the court in Cambodia under > > > > > Hun Sen's > > > > > vanguard. You can fool the ignorant, but you can not fool the world > > > > > who are > > > > > full of fair judgment. > > > > > In Mu's case, it's very clear. It's twisted by any other means. > > > > Intelligent people could see it coming. > > > > Mu started her case without any ground except hearsay and sentiment. > > > > Her lawsuit was dismissed. > > > > How was it twisted? Please tell us. Perhaps we are missing something > > > > here. > > > > I don't think Hun Sen is trying to fool the world. His action is very > > > > clear whether it's good or bad for Cambodia. He didn't twist > > > > anything. > > > > He slapped Mu with a counter suit, which the court took it and > > > > convicted Mu. I don't think that he twisted the case. Perhaps, you are > > > > trying to tell us that you don't like what Hun Sen did to Mu. And you > > > > are trying to tell us that your sentiment whole heartedly go toward > > > > Mu. You are trying to accept her activism. And you are trying to tell > > > > the world that that is the way it ought to be. > > > > That's not how you fight to better something. Unfortunately Mu, her > > > > boss and her party are trying to indulge themselves for power of their > > > > own. That is the truth. > > > > Oh@ You may think that this message is trying to defend Hun Sen and > > > > his actions. My friend, Hun Sen doesn't need any help from anyone. He > > > > has the power today to do anymeans to anyone or anything.Only a foul > > > > would fight him with groundless act like Mu did in her lawsuit. > > > > > > More than this, general Cambodian people are really worrying about > > > > > the lose > > > > > of Cambodia land to Vietnam who has transformed their imperialism > > > > > policy > > > > > from ancient technique of using arm force to use political economy > > > > > instead. > > > > > Evidences from this assertion are numerous. For instance, the > > > > > uncountable > > > > > unequal treaties and submissive behavior of Hun Sen's administration > > > > > towards > > > > > Vietnam authority, the non-stop influx of Vietnamese illegal > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. 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