លោកវត្ដកែវ! ថ្វីត្បិតតែខ្ញុំនិយាយបែបលេងសើច រឿងដែលខុំ្ញទទួលថាខុំ្ញជាខ្មែរក្រហមនោះក៏ ព្រោះថាខុំ្ញបានបដិសេដពីដំបូងដែរ តែគេនៅតែមិនជឿ ដូច្នេះខ្ញុំក៏រុញទូកបណ្ដោយលេងទៅ ហើយខ្ញុំក៏មិនដែលបារម្ពដែរថា បងប្អូននៅផ្ទះខ្មែរនេះគិតថាវាជារើងពិតអ្វីដែរ។ ឯរឿងខ្លះទៀត ដូចជារឿងហ៊ុនសែនធាក់ជញ្ជាំងការិយាល័យទីស្នាក់ការគណះរដ្ធមន្រី្ដដែល ចិនសង់អោយនិងរឿងវាបោកតាម៉ុកយកមកចាប់ហើយក្រោយមកសម្លាប់ដោយដាក់ថ្នាំនោះ គឺជារឿងដែលមិត្ដខ្ញុំម្នាក់ដែលជានាយទាហានជាន់ខ្ពស់ម្នាក់ដែលជាគណបក្សប្រជាជនម្នាក់ ដែលនៅជាប់មិនឆ្ងាយពីហ.សប៉ុន្មានដែរ វាបានដឺងហើយវាប្រាប់ខ្ញុំកាលខុំ្ញទៅលេងស្រុកខ្មែរ ឆ្នាំទៅ។ មិត្ដខ្ញុំនេះវាខិតខំចង់ចេញមកក្រៅណាស់ប៉ុន្ដែវាចេញមកមិនរួច វាធ្លាក់សម្ភាសន៍ជា មួយទូតអាមេរិកម្ដងជាពីរដង ប្រហែលមកពីទាក់ទងនឹងប្រវត្ដិរូបរបស់វា។ ទោះយ៉ាងណា ខ្ញុំសូមអរគុណលោកដែលមិនបានយល់ខុសមកលើខ្ញុំ។
ដោយសេចក្ដីរាប់អាន, Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Watkeo Kuma <[email protected]> wrote: From: Watkeo Kuma <[email protected]> Subject: RE: What's Wrong?? It's Hatred To: "camdisc fan" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 8:00 PM លោក ខោចែវ ខ្ញុំបានអានសេចក្តីដែលលោកអត្ថាធិប្បាយនោះដែរ តែខ្ញុំមិនបានយល់ថាជាការពិតទេ ថែមពីលើនោះ ទៅទៀត គ្រាន់តែរហនាមរបស់លោក គឺអស់សំណើចទៅហើយ។ យ៉ាងណាមិញ បើឧបមាថាកាល ណោះលោកមានតែខោចែវរត់កាត់បន្លា នោះកាន់តែជារឿងកំបែ្លងសើចចុកពោះបំផុត។ Watkeo Kuma Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:08:52 -0700 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: What's Wrong?? It's Hatred To: [email protected] អីយ៉ួយ! លោកស៊ីស៊ីពែរ! លេងខ្មាតតាមែនទែនហើយហ្ន៎! បើអញ្ចឺងក៏ល្អដែរ សូមជួយចាប់សម្ដាចម៌ហ៊ុនក្វាង, ជាស៊ីម, ហេងសំរិន, ហោប្រាំហុង, ស្ដាចម៌តា, ក្រហមសំផន, អៀងសារី។ល។និង។ល។ ចូលតុលាការមុនទៅ ចាំយើងដាក់ កៅស៊ូខោចែវយើងរួចហើយយើងនិងចូលខ្លួនទៅតាមដែរ! Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Thu, 8/19/10, cppamerican cppamerican <[email protected]> wrote: From: cppamerican cppamerican <[email protected]> Subject: Re: What's Wrong?? It's Hatred To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 5:30 AM សួស្ងី Pheng Kim Ving វាពិតដូច្នោះមែន ពួកខ្មែរក្រហម បានសម្លាប់មនុស្សមិនរើសមុខឡើយ ។ ហើយសកម្មជនរបស់ពួកនេះម្នាក់ៗ រាប់តាំងពីយោធាតូចតាចរហូតដល់មេបញ្ជាការ គឺពួកគេម្នាក់ ៗ តែងតែធ្លាប់បានសម្លាប់មនុស្ស ។ ដូច្នេះ ចំពោះលោកម្នាក់ដែលឈ្មោះ Khoar Chev រូបនេះ តើគេពិតជាធ្លាប់មានតួនាទីជាអតិតកងទ័ពខ្មែរក្រហម មែនឬ ? បើដូច្នោះមែន តើសព្វថ្ងៃជនរូបនេះកំពុងរស់នៅលើទឹកដីសហរដ្ឋអាមេរិក មែនឬ? ព្រោះថា យោងទៅតាមលក្ខន្តិកះ នៃច្បាប់អន្តោប្រវេសអាមេរិកកាំង អនិកជនណាដែលធ្លាប់ បានចូលរួមប្រព្រឹត្ត បទល្មើសប្រឆាំងមនុស្សជាតិ នឹងអាចត្រូវប្រឈមមុខនិងតុលាការ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ខ្ញុំសូមប្រាប់លោកតាមត្រង់ទៅចុះ ខ្ញុំជាសមញ្ញជនម្នាក់ គ្មានឋានះអ្វី ក្នុងជួររាជការឡើយ ហើយក៏គ្មានអ្វីពាក់ព័ន្ធជាមួយ គណបក្សប្រជាជនទៀតផង ។ សព្វថ្ងៃ ខ្ញុំមានមុខរបរ ជាអ្នកឡើងត្នោត និងរបរកាប់ឧសលក់ ។ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:16 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello cppamerican cppamerican, > > Thank you. > > Now, I like to point out one aspect. The Khmer Rouge didn't kill just > the capitalists, the members of the old regime, and those who opposed > them (no one dared to oppose them openly during their regime). They > killed indiscriminately. They planned to massacre all the Cambodian > people who didn't live under their control during the civil war, > whether you were a cabinet minister or a sikhlo driver in the previous > regime. > > Pheng Kim Ving > > On Aug 18, 8:19 am, cppamerican cppamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: >> សូមគាំទ្រការអត្ថាធិប្បាយរបស់់លោកPheng Kim Ving! >> វាពិតណាស់ ការសម្លាប់រង្គាលក្រោមរបបកម្ពុជាប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ >> គឺមកពីខ្មែរមកពីពួកខ្មែរក្រហមជ្រុលនិយមខ្លួនឯងហ្នឹង មានផែនការឆ្កួតលីលា >> ដោយពួកគេចង់បានសង្គមមួយស្អាតស្អំល្អឥតខ្ចះ >> យោងទៅតាមពួកនេះ គឺពួកគេត្រូវកម្ចាត់ឲ្យអស់នូវខ្មាំងសត្រូវ >> អ្នកប្រឆាំងបដិវត្ត ពួកនាយទុន ពួកសក្តិភូមិប្រតិកិរិយា >> ជាពិសេសគឺការធ្វើសង្រ្គាមវណ្ណះ។ ការទម្លាក់កំហុស ទៅលើបរទេស >> ថាដែលជាអ្នកញុះញុងបណ្តាលឲ្យមានការសម្លាប់រង្គាលនោះ គឺមិនអាចទទួលយកបានឡើយ >> ។ >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:55 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Re:http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc/browse_thread/thread/c159a7a28... >> >> > Suorsdey Loork Khoar Chev, >> >> > I have to disagree with you when you say the killings (genocide) >> > should be blamed on the Viets, Sihanouk, and the Khmer Rouge. I >> > firmly believe that the Khmer Rouge and the Khmer Rouge alone bear >> > responsibility for the killings. The reason is, during the genocide, >> > the Khmer Rouge leadership and the Khmer Rouge leadership alone had >> > total control over the country. The Khmer Rouge leadership didn't >> > include Sihanouk. If Vietnam had ordered or encouraged the Khmer Rouge >> > leadership to commit the genocide against their own people the >> > Cambodian people, the Khmer Rouge leadership could simply have >> > disobeyed the order or ignored the encouragement. >> >> > It's important to point out that no Khmer Rouge leader, be it Pol Pot >> > or Ieng Sary or Khieu Sampahan or even Duch, has ever accused Vietnam >> > of training or ordering or encouraging them to commit the genocide. >> > It's interesting to notice that the UN and the international community >> > have never accused Vietnam of playing a part in the genocide. Even the >> > US, who was hostile to Vietnam for having invaded Pol Pot's Kampuchea >> > to destroy his regime, for quite some time after the invasion, has >> > never accused Vietnam of being involved in the genocide. >> >> > My family and I escaped to Vietnam in about mid-August 1975, not in >> > April 1975. So I lived for about 4 months under the Khmer Rouge >> > regime. Although this may not be a very long time, I already witnessed >> > by my very own eyes the cruelty of the Khmer Rouge. At the very >> > beginning: they entered Phnom Penh and won the civil war about noon of >> > 17 Apr 1975, (I together with other people applauded them, not because >> > we welcomed their victory, but because we believed the war ended and >> > we were happy about that), at about 2:00 pm the very same day, they >> > started to force people out of the capital; my family (of course >> > including me) and all the people in my area were forced out at about >> > 11:30 pm; yeah, in the middle of the night. And that was only the >> > beginning. >> >> > It's not accurate to say that I love the Viets more than the Thais. >> > It's accurate to say that I experienced myself the facts that the >> > Viets treated the Cambodian refugees as human beings while the Thais >> > treated the Cambodian refugees as street dogs. Thus it's accurate to >> > believe that I like the Viets and dislike the Thais for t >> > heir treatments of the Cambodian refugees. However I'm still grateful >> > to Thailand for accepting Cambodian refugees, although unwillingly; it >> > was the UN and the international community especially the US who urged >> > it to do so and who paid for the costs of handling the refugees. >> >> > In Toronto Canada where I now live, a racial group (I won't specify >> > who they are, for fear of being accused of racism and more seriously >> > for fear of putting myself in a possible danger) constitute only about >> > 10% of the population, but they commit about 90% of the reported >> > crimes. According to people who live here for 30 years or more, this >> > has been going on for at least about 30 years now. Why don't they >> > change themselves and abandon the lives of crime?? Because their >> > community leaders always blame on other races particularly the Whites >> > for the ills and the crimes of their members. They never look in the >> > mirror and try to find out what's wrong with them. This attitude of >> > the leaders is a license for the members to continue to commit crimes. >> >> > Similarly, the Khmers who blame other nations for the Khmers killing >> > the Khmers have the same attitude as the leaders of the above- >> > mentioned racial group. If the Khmers don't look in the mirror and try >> > to find out what's wrong with them but instead they blame other >> > nations, they send a message to other Khmers that it's ok to kill the >> > Khmers (you're not at fault when you kill innocent Khmers, it's the >> > fault of other nations), a new genocide will likely happen again, or a >> > series of smaller-scale massacres will take place again and again and >> > again. I know what's wrong: it's hatred. The Khmer Rouge committed the >> > genocide against the Cambodian people because they hated the Cambodian >> > people. I don't need to read any book about the genocide; I >> > experienced the Khmer Rouge regime hands-on. >> >> > Besides, when a Khmer accuses other nations of making the Khmers kill >> > the Khmers, he/she implicitly declares, perhaps unknowingly or >> > subconsciously, that the Khmers are so silly that other nations can >> > make them kill other Khmers. >> >> > Pheng Kim Ving >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" group. >> > This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. >> > Thank you for your understanding. 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