On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, David Toub wrote:
> On Nov 19, 2003, Mike Cohen wrote:

> >I gave up on Camino a few months ago. I find that Safari works better
> >and is a lot more pleasant to use. Both Safari & Firebird are a lot
> >faster & more stable than any recent Camino build. Unless the Camino
> >people get their act together and get it at least as fast as Firebird,
> >I won't use it again.

> Then why bother with this mailing list? 

What use would the mailing list be if it consisted only of a mutual
backpatting society? We NEED to hear from people who are *dissatisfied*
for whatever reason, otherwise Camino will die on the vine. 

> I think that the fact that Camino is open source and maintained
> largely by volunteers who update it regularly based on user feedback,

Well...sometimes but not always. Witness the previous/pending conversation
wherein some of these volunteers have a bit of a god complex.

> I think it�s a bit presumptuous to demand that the developers, who are
> quite generous with their time, �get their act together.�

I disagree. If one is not willing to do a proper job, one ought not to
volunteer.

> silly threats (�I�m ditching browser X for Y unless you do
> everything I want and then some!�) are not appropriate nor are they useful.

Please, the man didn't issue a "threat". He stated a fact. And it's *very*
important, because without users, Camino (or any other app) may as well
not exist. Developers need to know if they're doing or not doing something
that's causing potential users of their app to say "Forget it" and walk
away. Sooner is better than later on this.

DS

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