Right. We could just have a branch called "classic" on github. Leaving 
everything untouched.

And then change the gem name to camping-classic or something.

Maybe we should rewrite it afterwards (kind of). And make it backwards 
compatible with Camping applications. Just make the infrastructure simple and 
minimalistic. And make it easy to extend and configure. I think this would be 
the best thing ever for Camping more or less.

Cheers!

Isak Andersson

Philippe Monnet <r...@monnet-usa.com> skrev:

On one hand everyone is free to fork anything to change radical direction. This 
would allow for the size and some design constraints to be eliminated. But on 
the other hand, at this point in time (since we are the new community) 
shouldn't we free ourselves from the original constraints and just ignore the 
size aspect? I personally think so. It does not mean we have to "go crazy" and 
make it large and complicated (like Rails).
With the source being on Github, we can just designate the current version as 
the "classic" (super micro version) and document very explicitly that from now 
on we will be free of these constraints and explain how people can still get 
the "classic" version. Since the framework has proven extremely stable and 
resilient, this would not prevent any tinkerer who needs the classic version to 
just do so.
Although it has been fun to reference the size when talking about Camping, 
keeping it reasonably simple and small is good enough for me.

"... free free set them free ..."

On 4/13/2012 9:55 AM, Isak Andersson wrote: 

I agree, I'd like to see the way Camping works to grow in to something much 
more usable. Perhaps a fork is a good idea because the legacy would remain and 
all. But then in the fork we could deal with things that might be kind of 
annoying at times. And grow it with a steady pace.

If we'd fork camping I think we should still stay as minimalistic as possible. 
Only adding the best things. And work on making it easy to extend.

Cheers!

Isak Andersson

Dave Everitt <dever...@innotts.co.uk> skrev: 

There's a crucial point here... if 3k (the old 4k) is a 'proof of concept' and 
a great exercise in programming skill, it isn't something that most users will 
really worry about. If the 3k limit has to be broken back up to 4 or even 5k to 
get some added/altered/optional functionality that would help usability for the 
rest of us, it's not an issue for me - DaveE


3kb is great and all, but it seems kind of dishonest if the framework isn't 
even really usable without a bunch of other gems and files and stuff. The 
conflict between 3/4kb and having robust well designed features often seems to 
haunt this project. Maybe time for a forking? I have next to no interest in 3kb 
as a real feature.


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