roger_millin wrote: > Neil wrote: >> When I first started in the motor trade my nick-name was Sir > Neil ;-) > > As you were a motor trade crook I'm surprised it was as polite as > that! ;-) > >> >> Actually I am now rather jealous of your fairground generator > engine, it >> would just do to power my barge electrics. > Only the bl**dy electrics??!!!! You just get yourself some modern > Japanese whizzy stuff and tuck it under that stern cabin and forget > about it. It would be a waste to have a decent engine under there, > never to be seen. ;-)
As you know a Gardner makes a bloody good barge engine, but as you say I will probably be sticking with Beta, a BV3800, not too whizzy and no turbo. > Are you designing something like Salad Days at this url then (except > for the small aft cabin for the power/genny side of things? > http://www.rllboats.co.uk/wide_beams.html > Roger No, even XR&D have moved into slightly more shapely designs than that! ;-) They are quite happy to build a kit or any surveyors design. So far I have seen a couple of the newstyle Piper barges, which were OK and a Euroships kit: http://www.euroshipservices.nl/ being fitted out. It did not have a straight edge in it and seemed more insubstantial that most narrowboats, not the kind of thing to come anywhere near the bottom in. Because of its shape it also had bu&&er all room in it. I certainly want a hard chine design. My three weeks on Final Fling proved to me that if coupled to a reasonable bow shape below the waterline it is no problem to achieve a hull speed of around 7knots with around 90hp without any fuss. It will probably end up something in between these two barges: http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Stuffimages/FinalFling2.jpg http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Stuffimages/FinalFling3.jpg http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Stuffimages/Cedar2.jpg http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Stuffimages/Cedar.jpg I am not worried about any shear in the cabin and may well have it stepped down after the galley/diner/lounge, so I can get some water and waste tankage under the lounge floor. The layout will follow the normal boring barge layout of: U shaped galley with fridge and freezer under opp gunwale. Breakfast bar for 6 with smallish overhead cupboards Lounge one wall free, low units on other side. Sofa bed and comfy chairs large 4 pane double glazed skylight above. These low units continue along side corridor with small office. Cross double dinette in own cabin, with cupboards as you enter. This can then do the Earnest thing of two singles, crossdouble or table for 6. Cross bathroom / utility room with washer and dryer under the passage side gunwales large shower, macerator bog fed with raw water like Earnest and surprisingly Final Fling! Calorifier with large airing cupboard above (There would be room to loose calorifier in engine room, this would aslo be easier for plumbing, but I like a free heat airing cupboard. Also room nfor a bidet, would be quite useful, because barge skipper seem to sit on their ar$e all day! Main bedroom 5ft bed against cabin bulkhead, quite high with 8 draws under (if we can't loose the water tanks under the floor it will have to go under bed). Space robbed from under front deck will be a large cupboard/walldrobe. Steel watertight bulkhead beyond, bowthruster and large bow locker reached from flush hatch in front deck. Wheelhouse big enough to have rear cross seat (another bed if we are over whelmed with crew!) with table. The space underneath this will be robbed and form headroom in the engine room (like Final Fling) Integral double cross fuel tanks just beyond engine room bulkhead. Evean at 18" this gives over 1000l in each. messy stuff in engine room Probably end up with 600Ah of 2v traction cells, Kabola 440 14Kw pressure jet diesel bolier (I think this is the only 24v pressure jet boiler that will side vent through the hull) 8Kva 1500rpm Beta cocooned genny all Victron electrical stuff. 2 x 3000/24/70 Phoenix Multi plus, soft start 3.6Kva isolation transformer, auto switch between shore power and genny. BMV 501 battery monitor. Maybee ARS Anglian Diesels hydraulic drive or just their hydraulics attached to 15Hhp bowthruster and anchor winch. Beta have been very competative and they have done a reasonable quote for the whole lot, including a 175Ah 24v alternator and all the hydraulics. -- Neil Arlidge - NB Earnest / Barge Maurice A (on the drawing board) Follow the traveled TNC at : http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/ygtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canals-list/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
