[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 07/11/2008 18:22:02 GMT Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> although  I would like to move away from hydrocarbon
> diesel, I have yet to be  convinced that bio-diesel is better for the
> environment over  all.
>
>
>
> I agree. Many of the claims for greener living are based on emotional
> rather
> than practical reasons and many of the general perceptions don't bear
> analysis when you look at the implementation of them.

I truly agree.  Green is an ideal, trouble is sorting out the data from the 
*vast* amount of spin that interested parties add to it.
The same can be said about so-called "free energy".  There is no such thing 
as free energy, it's just an energy conversion - and take away some energy 
from a source and there is always a knock on result.  e.g. It has been 
proved that wind farms cause massive turbulence and a loss of wind power, 
the result being that the land behind the wind farm (for quite some 
distance) experiences a warming of at least 0.8C - and this is to prevent 
"global warming".  I known of several Professors that have written papers 
condemning both large wind and tide harnessing systems, calculating that the 
overall effect on the planet is a net negative benefit.  Trouble is most 
people don't read scientific journals, and the press don't often report 
them.
There is only one energy that can be a positive gain and that's nuclear - a 
modern plant will make much more energy than is used for its construction 
and decommissioning.


Ron Jones
Process Safety & Development Specialist
Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near misses at
http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and
human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert
Einstein 


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