Steve Haywood wrote:
> 2009/2/25 Adrian Stott <[email protected]>
> 
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> In a message dated 24/02/2009 15:49:59 GMT Standard Time,
>>> [email protected] writes:
>>>
>>> What do you do in response to that sort of  thing?
>>>
>>> AFAIA It's the local authority's responsibility to ensure the  stores do
>> not
>>> allow trolleys to be dumped anywhere they shouldn't.
>> Yeah, sure.  Always sensible to blame the victim.  He's easy to find.
>>
>> Hasn't it occurred to you that, before a cart is dumped, it first has
>> to be *stolen* from a supermarket?  So where are the suggestions for
>> prosecuting the thieves (who are also the litterers)?
>>
>> But there you go.  Pubs are the cause of binge drinking, soccer teams
>> are the cause of hooliganism, schools are the cause of oikdom ...
>>
> 
>  If a thief breaks into my house and steals from me, the police have a
> problem. If I consistently leave my door open so that thieves walk in, I
> have a problem. I know one thing for certain: the police won't be interested
> in it.
> 
> You're shooting from the hip again, Adrian. Take a couple of asprin. Sit
> down in a quiet room.

I think the answer is somewhere in between.  If you leave your keys in 
your car and someone steals it and uses it in a ram raid, then clearly 
the thief is a villain, but you have some responsibility as well.  That 
feels much more like the supermarket's position.  The supermarket has 
brought a hazard to navigation into the vicinity of the canal.  They 
ought to bear some responsibility for that.

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