The Cache installations in use are licensed with the product the hospitals 
purchased (ie IDX, EPIC, etc).

It would be much easier to covert AWAY from Cache... I've already done it for 
several hospitals.  I can pull data out of Cache like there is no tomorrow.

I recommend you talk to some of the hospitals using Cache... my guess is none 
of them are happy.  In fact, I rarely find anyone that has anything good to say 
about Intersystems or Cache.

A little history... there used to be several M vendors, then Intersystems 
(makers of Cache) purchased all of them, and FORCED all of the customers to use 
Cache.  Now that Intersystems has a monopoly on the M environment they gouge 
pricing and support options.

There were several great applications (MSM, DSM, etc.)  Intersystems bought 
them all and said, "now, pay for cache or you are screwed".

Believe me, you do not want to be locked in to their platform.  Intersystems 
boasts the fastest database speeds, but with benchmarks that we've done, Cache 
is not any faster than MySQL or GTM (an open source mumps).

In conclusion, I want to apologize for the hostile tone in the message I left 
last night (toward the beginning of this thread)... I had a bad day and I think 
I took it out on someone who was just trying to offer some ideas.  So for that 
I apologize.  I do feel however, that Cache is a bad platform to consider.

Mike
 

On Sunday, December 05, 2004, at 07:38AM, Emir Prcic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>CACHE !!!!
>Ok, this is my point of view regarding cache. There are thousands of
>hospitals in USA running with cache as backend and thousands of them already
>have invested in Cache licenses. So why not use those licenses and just put
>Care2x on top of them? Or do you think somebodey who paid 250K for 128
>licences is going to throw that away? 
>
>> CACHE???  You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
>> 
>> Cache is an expensive proprietary database that is inferior to MySQL in
>> every way!  How do I know?  Because I developed in Cache for many, many,
>MANY
>> years!
>> 
>> Cache costs millions for hospital implementations.  Their licensing
>> structure totallly sucks.
>> 
>> Here is an example, if you have a 128 user license (which costs about 250K
>
>> But I can say MySQL has over 15 MILLION installations - and finding MySQL
>> expertise is very easy.  Take a look how much a Cache programmer costs (we
>
>I LOVE MYSQL !!! Just love it...
>
>
>> You are also locking yourself in to the microsoft platform which is
>> another huge mistake in healthcare.  (I wrote a huge article about it
>"Microsoft
>> and Healthcare - A Terrible Mix".)
>
>And now for microsoft platform, I am totaly against it in healthcare (out of
>many, many, MANY reasons), but it works just great on my PC. I think
>everybody should stick to what they know best and where they are most
>productive. I was not talking about what software people should use, but
>that we should use something. And if this is going to be distributed via
>Web, than we should use the software that gives us the biggest compression
>and best quality. We can also give videos windows media, and many other
>formats once they are made, don't you agree. 
>
>
>> I will create an installation video for Care2XMac and post it here...
>> again, not locked in to the Microsoft platform.
>
>Yeah, but lock it to Mac platform... :-)
>
>We have to talk regarding the installation. Installing Care2x from windows
>pc to linux server, or installing directly on linux server (console or GUI),
>installing with help of webmin, installing with this and that... we need
>some platform for colaborating on this, (Wilfried do you have any ideas
>regarding this?).
>
>Regards, 
>
>Emir
>
>
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