Hi Mike, First thanks for the info and your "contras". Looks like you know a lot about cache and Intersystems. I will tell you my reasons behind this idea in a private mail tomorow. I will be contacting Children Hospital in Cinncinnati which are using cache and some other solution, see what they have to say (Intersystems recomended to contact them so I don't know if it will be a good source).
I am not pulling for cache or such, but I just think that it is not a bad idea of having some comercial DB working with care2x and if somebody is willing to help do that I say why not (btw, this is my personal point of view) Oh, and for your bad day... I don't take things like that personally. Appologies accepted :-) and thanks for the info, once more. Emir > The Cache installations in use are licensed with the product the hospitals > purchased (ie IDX, EPIC, etc). > > It would be much easier to covert AWAY from Cache... I've already done it > for several hospitals. I can pull data out of Cache like there is no > tomorrow. > > I recommend you talk to some of the hospitals using Cache... my guess is > none of them are happy. In fact, I rarely find anyone that has anything > good to say about Intersystems or Cache. > > A little history... there used to be several M vendors, then Intersystems > (makers of Cache) purchased all of them, and FORCED all of the customers to > use Cache. Now that Intersystems has a monopoly on the M environment they > gouge pricing and support options. > > There were several great applications (MSM, DSM, etc.) Intersystems > bought them all and said, "now, pay for cache or you are screwed". > > Believe me, you do not want to be locked in to their platform. > Intersystems boasts the fastest database speeds, but with benchmarks that we've done, > Cache is not any faster than MySQL or GTM (an open source mumps). > > In conclusion, I want to apologize for the hostile tone in the message I > left last night (toward the beginning of this thread)... I had a bad day and > I think I took it out on someone who was just trying to offer some ideas. > So for that I apologize. I do feel however, that Cache is a bad platform > to consider. > > Mike > > > On Sunday, December 05, 2004, at 07:38AM, Emir Prcic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >CACHE !!!! > >Ok, this is my point of view regarding cache. There are thousands of > >hospitals in USA running with cache as backend and thousands of them > already > >have invested in Cache licenses. So why not use those licenses and just > put > >Care2x on top of them? Or do you think somebodey who paid 250K for 128 > >licences is going to throw that away? > > > >> CACHE??? You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! > >> > >> Cache is an expensive proprietary database that is inferior to MySQL in > >> every way! How do I know? Because I developed in Cache for many, > many, > >MANY > >> years! > >> > >> Cache costs millions for hospital implementations. Their licensing > >> structure totallly sucks. > >> > >> Here is an example, if you have a 128 user license (which costs about > 250K > > > >> But I can say MySQL has over 15 MILLION installations - and finding > MySQL > >> expertise is very easy. Take a look how much a Cache programmer costs > (we > > > >I LOVE MYSQL !!! Just love it... > > > > > >> You are also locking yourself in to the microsoft platform which is > >> another huge mistake in healthcare. (I wrote a huge article about it > >"Microsoft > >> and Healthcare - A Terrible Mix".) > > > >And now for microsoft platform, I am totaly against it in healthcare (out > of > >many, many, MANY reasons), but it works just great on my PC. I think > >everybody should stick to what they know best and where they are most > >productive. I was not talking about what software people should use, but > >that we should use something. And if this is going to be distributed via > >Web, than we should use the software that gives us the biggest > compression > >and best quality. We can also give videos windows media, and many other > >formats once they are made, don't you agree. > > > > > >> I will create an installation video for Care2XMac and post it here... > >> again, not locked in to the Microsoft platform. > > > >Yeah, but lock it to Mac platform... :-) > > > >We have to talk regarding the installation. Installing Care2x from > windows > >pc to linux server, or installing directly on linux server (console or > GUI), > >installing with help of webmin, installing with this and that... we need > >some platform for colaborating on this, (Wilfried do you have any ideas > >regarding this?). > > > >Regards, > > > >Emir > > > > > >-- > >NEU +++ DSL Komplett von GMX +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > >GMX DSL-Netzanschluss + Tarif zum superg�nstigen Komplett-Preis! > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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