Hi Leon,

Shawn has done exactly what you want to do, so if anyone knows the pitfalls, he does. ;-)

Besides Shawn's useful notes, make sure you read sections 1.2.3 and 5.2 of this tutorial, if you haven't done so already:

CARET_TUTORIAL_SEPT-06
http://sumsdb.wustl.edu:8081/sums/directory.do?id=6585200

This tutorial includes a spec file intended for this purpose. The ones in the Caret fmri_mapping directory are not really intended for use as "visualization" specs; rather, Caret uses them when mapping fMRI data onto PALS_B12. You can, however, use the average fiducial surfaces in that directory for your foci-related purposes. Note that studies report results in stereotactic spaces other than MNI (e.g., AFNI users report true Talairach-Tournoux (T88) coordinates, which differs significantly from MNI -- see http://imaging.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/imaging/MniTalairach; wustl.edu researchers typically use "711-2*" space -- somewhere between T88 and MNI). See http://brainvis.wustl.edu/help/pals_volume_normalization/ for additional details.

Reading tutorial section 5.2 may clarify some of this, but you're likely to have residual questions/confusion about these spaces.

On 12/08/2006 10:24 AM, Christ, Shawn E. wrote:

Hi Leon,

I have been working with David, Donna, and John on utilizing Caret for precisely this purpose with respect to an ALE-type meta-analysis on deception that we have submitted for publication. You can download a copy of our spec file, etc. at http://sumsdb.wustl.edu:8081/sums/directory.do?id=6600996

I’ve also uploaded a copy of my personal notes on how to transform foci using Caret. They can be found at http://www.shawnchrist.com/FociTransform.pdf

I hope this helps!

Best,

-Shawn

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Assistant Professor

Department of Psychological Sciences

University of Missouri-Columbia

210 McAlester Hall

Columbia, MO 65211

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*Subject:* [caret-users] using caret for a meta-analysis

Hi,

I am in the process of doing a meta-analysis of imaging data. I am a complete novice to Caret, but from a quick look it seems it's stereotaxic foci functions would be ideal to log the peak activity data from different studies. Eventually I would like to display symbols for each peak on a 3D brain rendering of some sort. Perhaps Naively, I thought I could load a template brain (open a spec file), add foci (assuming for a moment I have all coordinates in MNI space) using for example 'layers>foci>map stererotaxic focus', and see them pop-out on the brain. However, at first pass, I run into the following questions:

a) What brain (spec file) should I load from the fMRI_mapping folder? There are so many of them. Is there anywhere a text file describing what these different files are?

b) If I enter a focus with coordinates which happen to be under the surface by a few millimeters, they don't show up on the surface. Is there a way to project them to the surface or to make the brain 'transparent'?

c) Once I have the foci entered, can I project them to an inflated brain, and if so, how?

Finally, I assume I am not the first to want to use Caret for this purpose – does someone have a 'recipe' for such a project or tips on what pitfalls to avoid?

Thanks,

Leon

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Department of Psychology

The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

Jerusalem 91905

Israel

Tel: +972-2-5881739

Fax: +972-2-5825659

http://pissaro.soc.huji.ac.il/~leon/Lab <http://pissaro.soc.huji.ac.il/%7Eleon/Lab>

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