Hi Reza,

Hmmm. I can almost replicate this behavior. When I load CARET_TUTORIAL_SEPT06/COMPARE_MACAQUE_HUMAN/RegF99toPALS_23-LDMK-VE_Macaque.F99UA1.RIGHT.Register-with-PALS_23-LDMK-VE.73730.spec.deform_map, both the individual and atlas directory buttons are disabled, but Data File and Deformed File... are both enabled (see attached capture). I thought perhaps this might be because the deform_map was read-only, but I get the same behavior with a copy that is writeable. Normally, one can change the individual and atlas directories, as one must do when using a deform_map from one of our datasets (unless you're David Van Essen, in which case the paths work fine).

Using the Data File button, I could navigate to an input metric and successfully deform the data file. But if your buttons are disabled, then you might try using the following two caret commands to get the job done:

  DEFORMATION MAP FILE SOURCE/TARGET PATH UPDATE
     caret_command -def-map-path \
        <deformation-map-file> <source-path> <target-path>

  SURFACE APPLY DEFORMATION MAP
     caret_command -surface-deformation-apply \
        <deformation-map-file> <file-type> \
        <input-file>  <output-file> \
        [source-topo-file]  [source-deformed-topo-file] \
        [atlas-topo-file]
Deform a data file.

     Note: "source-topo-file", "source-deformed-topo-file" and
     "atlas-topo-file" are only required when deforming
     coordinate files.

     "file-type" is one of:
        AREAL_ESTIMATION
        BORDER_FLAT
        BORDER_PROJECTION
        BORDER_SPHERICAL
        CELL
        CELL_PROJECTION
        COORDINATE
        COORDINATE_FLAT
        FOCI
        FOCI_PROJECTION
        LAT_LON
        METRIC
        PAINT
        PROB_ATLAS
        RGB_PAINT
        SURFACE_SHAPE
        TOPOGRAPHY

Donna

On 03/14/2007 03:11 AM, Reza Rajimehr wrote:
Dear David,

In the "Apply Deformation Map" dialog box, I specified the following items:

1) Deformation Map File: the 23-LDMK deform_map file
2) File Type: Metric
3) Flat Max Edge Length: 10.00
4) Metric Deformation: Nearest Node (not sure which one is better?)
5) Smooth One Iteration (Except Flat)

The other buttons were not clickable (the dialog box does not allow me to
use them).

When I click the "Apply" button, I immediately receive the following error
message:

Deform Error
Is deformation map file valid? You must select a data file for
deformation. You must select the output name for the deformed file.

I tried to apply deformation map from two different .spec files:

1) Macaque F99 atlas directory, which has deformed metric files (from
individual macaque to F99). I added/appended the .deform_map file to this
.spec file before applying deformation.

2) COMPARE_MACAQUE_HUMAN directory (as a part of CARET_TUTORIAL_SEPT06
directory). I added/appended my metric files to this .spec file before
applying deformation.

In both cases, I got the same error.


Thanks for your helpful comments/suggestions,

Reza


Reza,

On Mar 10, 2007, at 9:31 PM, Reza Rajimehr wrote:

Dear caret-users,

David Van Essen suggested me to use the following .deform_map file for
deformation of macaque F99 to Human PALS:

RegF99toPALS_23-LDMK-VE_Macaque.F99UA1.RIGHT.Register-with-PALS_23-
LDMK-VE.73730.spec.deform_map
Once you have a deform_map file, you can use it to register data
sets  from monkey to human WITHOUT re-running a registration.  This
is done using the Surface: Deformation: Apply Deformation Map
option.  If you want to register paint files, metric files, and most
other files, you don't need anything other than the deform_map file
to get the job done, and the dialog window is fairly self-
explanatory.  If you want to register a border projection file or a
coordinate file, then you need additional coordinate and topology
files that are available as part of the Caret Sept_06 tutorial dataset:
http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/archivelist.do?
archive_id=6595051&archive_name=COMPARE_PALS_MacaqueF99.73730.spec

The only reason to actually re-run an interspecies registration is IF
you don't like the particular set of landmarks used and you want to
try your own.  If so, you should start with borderproj files also in:
http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/archivelist.do?
archive_id=6595051&archive_name=COMPARE_PALS_MacaqueF99.73730.spec
and make your additions and subtractions from there.

See Part 4 of the latest Caret tutorial for more details on monkey-
human comparisons.
http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/directory.do?
id=6585200&dir_name=CARET_TUTORIAL_SEPT-06

I specified this as my .deform_map file in the Spherical Parameters
tab in
the Spherical Surface Deformation dialog box. My question is what I
should
specify as .borderproj file. I have a borderproj file in my F99
directory
(that I used for the registration of individual macaque to F99). I
also
have a borderproj file in my PALS directory (that I used for the
registration of individual human to PALS). Should I use these
borderproj
files in the Individual and Atlas tabs in the Spherical Surface
Deformation dialog box? Or there are other files that I should use?

I also assume that the macaque F99 .spec file should be used in the
Individual tab, and the human PALS .spec file should be used in the
Atlas
tab.
See above.  These steps should not be necessary for your purposes.

I hope this helps.

David

Thanks for your help,
Reza

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