I'm not seeing that behavior with https://github.com/Jasig/cas/pull/22.

I have the old log4j.xml in the classpath and when I specify a
filesystem path in cas.properties it picks up that one as expected.

Tomcat-6.0.32, no special config.

Bill


On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Scott Battaglia
<[email protected]> wrote:
> For my own curiosity, I was attempting to test the logging capabilities.  I
> noticed that in Tomcat 6, *regardless* of the log4j configuration in the
> Spring XML, the log4j.xml on the classpath is always loaded.
>
> How did I notice this?  I could manipulate the log level of messages
> returned that appeared BEFORE the new Spring bean was loaded/configured.  I
> also was able to completely disable the XML file (renaming it to .bak) and
> make sure the web.xml didn't have any log4j stuff in it and the log4j.xml
> was still loaded.
>
> So two questions:
> 1. Is this a Tomcat configuration problem on my end (I'm pretty sure I
> always just unzip the Tomcat and don't do much else to it)
> 2. Does this mean that the log4j.xml in the classpath is always being
> loaded, plus whatever is configured elsewhere?
>
> Thanks
> Scott
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Scott Battaglia <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Bill, thanks for bringing the discussion to the list. What are the
>> ramifications for people who upgrade their CAS version but had never before
>> modified their log4j settings in the web.xml or for those who previously
>> modified the web.xml?
>>
>> Let's also be clear: this is an alternative to overriding the web.xml in
>> your overlay. Both options provided the ability to do what you are saying
>> can be done by moving these values to CAS.properties, though web.xml
>> required copying the file to your overlay.
>>
>> I'm also interested in how you compared whether there was a loss of
>> logging or not (I.e. is this initialized first so that if you set spring
>> logging to debug, you will see all the startup debug messages?). Apologies
>> if that was in the JIRA ticket. The emails are a pain to read on the phone.
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2011 1:10 PM, "William G. Thompson, Jr." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> This is a request for feedback regarding JIRA CAS-1082, Move Log4J
>>> initialization into Spring bean config so that cas.properties can be
>>> applied. -  https://issues.jasig.org/browse/CAS-1082
>>>
>>> Also see Pull Request: https://github.com/Jasig/cas/pull/22
>>>
>>> I'm proposing this change be included in CAS 3.5 consistent with the
>>> release strategy:
>>> https://wiki.jasig.org/display/CAS/CAS+Roadmap
>>>
>>> Motivation for this change comes from working with over half a dozen
>>> CAS deployments over the last year or so.
>>>
>>> This approach preserves the default location of
>>> WEB-INF/classes/log4j.xml while making it very easy for deployers to
>>> externalize the location via settings in cas.properties. This is
>>> helpful in multi-node deployments, deployments across multiple tiers,
>>> and preserving configuration between upgrades.
>>>
>>> A comparison of this patch against 3.4.11 showed no loss of logging.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>>
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