Thats default log4j behavior...if it doesn't find instructions on how
to find its config file it falls back on a default algorithm that
includes the classpath.


On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Scott Battaglia
<[email protected]> wrote:
> No.  I started with your branch (which had nothing in web.xml for logging)
> and then disabled the log4j Spring configuration file.  It still read it
> from the file on the classpath (at application startup, since it affected
> the Spring log output).
>
> I grepped the entire WAR file for log4j.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:44 PM, William G. Thompson, Jr. <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> No, I don't think so.  Do you have log4j init in two places?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Scott Battaglia
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Does it pick up both of them?  I was seeing logging statements at the
>> > level
>> > set by the log4j.xml on the classpath before the log4j initializer was
>> > loaded.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 7:01 PM, William G. Thompson, Jr.
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm not seeing that behavior with https://github.com/Jasig/cas/pull/22.
>> >>
>> >> I have the old log4j.xml in the classpath and when I specify a
>> >> filesystem path in cas.properties it picks up that one as expected.
>> >>
>> >> Tomcat-6.0.32, no special config.
>> >>
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Scott Battaglia
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > For my own curiosity, I was attempting to test the logging
>> >> > capabilities.
>> >> >  I
>> >> > noticed that in Tomcat 6, *regardless* of the log4j configuration in
>> >> > the
>> >> > Spring XML, the log4j.xml on the classpath is always loaded.
>> >> >
>> >> > How did I notice this?  I could manipulate the log level of messages
>> >> > returned that appeared BEFORE the new Spring bean was
>> >> > loaded/configured.
>> >> >  I
>> >> > also was able to completely disable the XML file (renaming it to
>> >> > .bak)
>> >> > and
>> >> > make sure the web.xml didn't have any log4j stuff in it and the
>> >> > log4j.xml
>> >> > was still loaded.
>> >> >
>> >> > So two questions:
>> >> > 1. Is this a Tomcat configuration problem on my end (I'm pretty sure
>> >> > I
>> >> > always just unzip the Tomcat and don't do much else to it)
>> >> > 2. Does this mean that the log4j.xml in the classpath is always being
>> >> > loaded, plus whatever is configured elsewhere?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Scott
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Scott Battaglia
>> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bill, thanks for bringing the discussion to the list. What are the
>> >> >> ramifications for people who upgrade their CAS version but had never
>> >> >> before
>> >> >> modified their log4j settings in the web.xml or for those who
>> >> >> previously
>> >> >> modified the web.xml?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Let's also be clear: this is an alternative to overriding the
>> >> >> web.xml
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> your overlay. Both options provided the ability to do what you are
>> >> >> saying
>> >> >> can be done by moving these values to CAS.properties, though web.xml
>> >> >> required copying the file to your overlay.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm also interested in how you compared whether there was a loss of
>> >> >> logging or not (I.e. is this initialized first so that if you set
>> >> >> spring
>> >> >> logging to debug, you will see all the startup debug messages?).
>> >> >> Apologies
>> >> >> if that was in the JIRA ticket. The emails are a pain to read on the
>> >> >> phone.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Dec 29, 2011 1:10 PM, "William G. Thompson, Jr."
>> >> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Folks,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> This is a request for feedback regarding JIRA CAS-1082, Move Log4J
>> >> >>> initialization into Spring bean config so that cas.properties can
>> >> >>> be
>> >> >>> applied. -  https://issues.jasig.org/browse/CAS-1082
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Also see Pull Request: https://github.com/Jasig/cas/pull/22
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I'm proposing this change be included in CAS 3.5 consistent with
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> release strategy:
>> >> >>> https://wiki.jasig.org/display/CAS/CAS+Roadmap
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Motivation for this change comes from working with over half a
>> >> >>> dozen
>> >> >>> CAS deployments over the last year or so.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> This approach preserves the default location of
>> >> >>> WEB-INF/classes/log4j.xml while making it very easy for deployers
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> externalize the location via settings in cas.properties. This is
>> >> >>> helpful in multi-node deployments, deployments across multiple
>> >> >>> tiers,
>> >> >>> and preserving configuration between upgrades.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> A comparison of this patch against 3.4.11 showed no loss of
>> >> >>> logging.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Best,
>> >> >>> Bill
>> >> >>>
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