+1

And IMHO, the explicit cleaner is not such a good idea for distributed reg. 
impls that employ their own strategies for cache invalidation.

D.

On Oct 17, 2016, 04:12 -0400, Tom Poage <tfpo...@ucdavis.edu>, wrote:
> Disabling the registry cleaner brought load average on our (4) servers down 
> to 0.01-0.20 (from 4.0-15.0).
>
> cas.properties:
>
> ticket.registry.cleaner.startdelay=-1
>
> (value could have been zero, but -1 seemed more mnemonic of the intent)
>
> Tom.
>
> > On Oct 14, 2016, at 1:28 PM, Tom Poage <tfpo...@ucdavis.edu 
> > (mailto:tfpo...@ucdavis.edu)> wrote:
> > Looks like we found the source of the load issue.
> >
> > Best we can tell, somewhere about 4.2.5 the RegistryCleaner embedded in the 
> > DefaultTicketRegistry was refactored into a TicketRegistryCleaner that’s 
> > now automatically picked up and started for all registry types (*). This 
> > cleaner walks the entire cache map, by default every two minutes, and by 
> > chunks with an exclusive lock. Multiply that by 50k entries and several 
> > servers all competing to do the same thing and it’s no wonder there’s some 
> > load. :-)
> >
> > Question now is whether to disable on all nodes, or enable on only one in 
> > the cluster. Caches like Hazelcast and Ehcache have a time-to-live eviction 
> > policy, so it seems to me the registry cleaner is unnecessary for this type 
> > of cache.
> >
> > The CAS code suggests the cleaner can be disabled, albeit somewhat 
> > indirectly, by setting the “ticket.registry.cleaner.startdelay” property to 
> > less than or equal to zero.
> >
> > Tom.
> >
> > * 
> > https://github.com/apereo/cas/commit/c1cbde11c5722e1930357d3dc3bdb6d4cffa8214
> >
> > From: Misagh Moayyed <mmoay...@unicon.net (mailto:mmoay...@unicon.net)>
> > Date: Friday, October 14, 2016 at 10:43 AM
> > To: Tom Poage <tfpo...@ucdavis.edu (mailto:tfpo...@ucdavis.edu)>, CAS 
> > Community <cas-user@apereo.org (mailto:cas-user@apereo.org)>
> > Subject: Re: [cas-user] Server load w/ 4.2.6
> >
> >
> > You can exclude the hazelcast dependency from the relevant module, and 
> > provide your own exact version.
> >
> > --
> > Misagh
> >
> > From: Tom Poage <tfpo...@ucdavis.edu> (mailto:tfpo...@ucdavis.edu)
> > Reply: Tom Poage <tfpo...@ucdavis.edu> (mailto:tfpo...@ucdavis.edu)
> > Date: October 14, 2016 at 8:44:49 PM
> > To: CAS Community <cas-user@apereo.org> (mailto:cas-user@apereo.org)
> > Subject: Re: [cas-user] Server load w/ 4.2.6
> >
> >
> > > Disabling the fourth node doesn't change anything.
> > >
> > > Profiling shows the highest CPU/time is spent in Hazelcast. Whether this 
> > > is a result of the updated Hazelcast version or the new synchronous CAS 
> > > code remains to be seen.
> > >
> > > Is it oossible to downgrade Hazelcast version (say, to 3.6) on CAS 4.2.6, 
> > > i.e. were any new Hazelcast version-specific changes made between roughly 
> > > 4.2.[12] and 4.2.6?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Tom.
> > >
> > > > On Oct 13, 2016, at 2:18 PM, Tom Poage <tfpo...@ucdavis.edu 
> > > > (mailto:tfpo...@ucdavis.edu)> wrote:
> > > > br/>> Afternoon, <
> > > > br/>> On moving from 4.2.1 to 4.2.6, our apparent syystem load 
> > > > increased dramatically.
> > > > br/>> Run queue went from as high as 4 to nearly 30, with (Linux) load 
> > > > average jumping from a max of 0.2 to about 15 for a user base (TGT 
> > > > count) of 46k.
> > > > br/>> A code diff doesn’t seem to show much, exxcept perhaps for the 
> > > > addition of a synchronous ticketTransactionManager. The only other 
> > > > likely candidate is either the bump in Hazelcast version, or that we 
> > > > went from 3 to 4 (single CPU) VMs in the cluster (point-to-point 
> > > > instead of multicast). CPU increased from a high of about 20% (usually 
> > > > 5-8%) to the 50% range. This is on all nodes. Ironically, response time 
> > > > doesn’t seem all that bad, though is a bit sluggish.
> > > > br/>> Anyone else experience something similar??
> > > > br/>> Thanks!!
> > > > Tom.
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