Guys, If we are going to first set up a test forum to see for ourselves, I suggest in that case that we should actually move this discussion list to there so that we give it a good and fair go. We don't need to retire this mailing list, so we keep both active, but we use Zoho as the main discussion list from now on. If we then don't think zoho is for us, we resume here.
Thoughts? On Jan 25, 8:34 pm, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> wrote: > OK. I'll contact Zoho to set up an open source account. > > 2010/1/25 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]> > > > I'm at work right now, so I can't really do it. > > So if you or John want to step up, be my guest. > > > Krzysztof > > > On 25 Sty, 09:19, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I agree. If it works well then we can continue using it and get our data > > > migrated, if it doesn't we provide feedback so they can improve it. > > > > I assume either you Krzysztof (because you brought it up) or John is > > going > > > to create an account. > > > > 2010/1/25 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]> > > > > > I say we give it a shot. > > > > Let's set up a test forum and see for ourselves, and then we decide > > > > whether we make the move or not. > > > > > On 25 Sty, 06:18, John Simons <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > So what is the verdict, are we going to move the user's mailing list > > > > > to Zoho? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > John > > > > > > On Jan 23, 9:58 pm, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I think it might just be that we haven't had a chance to play with > > Zoho > > > > to > > > > > > know if it really suits our needs. I like UV because it has been > > > > working > > > > > > really well for us. Does the ideas page in Zoho allow you to sort > > by > > > > votes, > > > > > > I couldn't find anything for this? > > > > > > > Krzysztof asked the following. Dhan, are you able to provide any > > > > details of > > > > > > whether Zoho has the functionality to add a poll into an existing > > > > > > discussion. > > > > > > > > I'm wondering if such voting +1/-1/0 functionality is built in > > into > > > > Zoho ;D > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Dhan > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > What specific feature of User Voice are you looking at? We have a > > > > > > > feedback widget that can be popped up either by links or via a > > > > > > > contrast colored floater widget. What other features of User > > Voice is > > > > > > > a show stopper for your needs? > > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 2:47 pm, Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm +1, > > > > > > > > We don't have the abandon the google group just yet, although > > if we > > > > get > > > > > > > > going with Zoho > > > > > > > > as we gradually customize it to our needs, I think we'll all > > find > > > > it > > > > > > > > more useful than google. > > > > > > > > > Also as Jono mentioned it looks like at the moment uservoice is > > > > better > > > > > > > > at where they overlap > > > > > > > > so we might want to stick to uservoice for some time after > > that, > > > > and see > > > > > > > > how things develop. > > > > > > > > > The UV-like functionality in Zoho was just added. > > > > > > > > > Krzysztof. > > > > > > > > > (PS) > > > > > > > > I'm wondering if such voting +1/-1/0 functionality is built in > > into > > > > Zoho > > > > > > > ;D > > > > > > > > > On 2010-01-23 10:31, Roelof Blom wrote: > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 5:20 AM, John Simons > > > > > > > > > <[email protected] <mailto: > > [email protected]>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes we can just start with the users mailing list, but I > > > > would > > > > > > > > > eventually bring both across because of the number of > > extra > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > Zoho provide us. > > > > > > > > > > I would not say that development mailing list is serving > > us > > > > that > > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > either. I think it has the same problem of not being able > > to > > > > tag > > > > > > > > > discussions per topic and the way we do voting, and it > > has no > > > > way > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > subscribing to discussion topics. > > > > > > > > > > I think both lists would benefit from the features Zoho > > > > provides. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 3:02 pm, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So are we talking about changing only the users mailing > > > > list, > > > > > > > > > not the > > > > > > > > > > development mailing list. I agree the users mailing > > list > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > > fit our > > > > > > > > > > users very well, however the development mailing list > > works > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:47 PM, John Simons > > > > > > > > > <[email protected] <mailto: > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > >>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know about everyone's experience with the > > google > > > > > > > > > mailing list, > > > > > > > > > > > but in my opinion it doesn't meet our requirements, > > > > specially > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > The majority of threads in the User's mailing list is > > > > "How do > > > > > > > > > I do X?" > > > > > > > > > > > and then someone posts a solution. > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with this is that we have no idea what > > the > > > > question > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > about until we read it and if the solution is correct > > or > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > Begin able to tag questions per topic (same way SO > > does > > > > it) > > > > > > > > > and mark > > > > > > > > > > > them as solved is essential for any support system > > (like > > > > it or > > > > > > > > > not the > > > > > > > > > > > users mailing list is our support system) , Actually > > > > people to > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > > around this limitation have started using the title > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > > > post as a > > > > > > > > > > > tagging mechanism eg [MonoRail] or [ActiveRecord]. > > > > > > > > > > > > This limitation is also creating a lot of repeated > > > > > > > > > questions/answers, > > > > > > > > > > > if you don;t believe me do a bit of browsing on the > > users > > > > > > > mailing > > > > > > > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, I would like to turn this thread into a voting > > one, > > > > and > > > > > > > > > propose > > > > > > > > > > > that we cast a vote to change mailing list to > > something > > > > that > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > meets our requirements and in turn give out > > Users/Clients > > > > a > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 from me > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 22, 12:04 am, Krzysztof Koźmic (2) < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In order. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. When you look at it, most questions on User > > group > > > > are > > > > > > > > > from one-to- > > > > > > > > > > > > few times visitors. > > > > > > > > > > > > They can then either subscribe to rss feeds or > > > > notifications > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > topics they've started > > > > > > > > > > > > or just see that through web interface. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Do you know if you can convert a question into a > > > > problem? > > > > > > > > > - No I > > > > > > > > > > > > don't. We'd have to check. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Only problem is that I think UV is nicer. - I > > agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Do you know if Zoho has an option like google > > groups > > > > to > > > > > > > > > email you > > > > > > > > > > > > each email that arrives which you can then reply > > to? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure they do. 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