I totally agree that we should have very clearly and well defined mission and must be focused on it. And that we should not play catch with Ms.
I think that productivity is still valid, but the magnitude have changed. In the past was a webforms x mvc comparison, but today we have many tools that are good as monorail is. Another great change imo, is that today we have an ecosystem towards mvc on the .Net land. We can reuse existing view engines, routing engines, binders, etc if we want to. On Jul 15, 2010 9:50 PM, "hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: Exactly. So going back to the original theme. I'd invite you to step back and see the whole picture. I see asp.net mvc as a quite successful *blessed* solution from MS. I also see Fubu MVC and possible others offering different perspectives on this space. I dont do web development anymore - unfortunately - but I dont think I would be totally happy with MS' offering or MonoRail. asp.net MVC: - has a great end-to-end experience (Fx + VS Integration + templates) - Framework is quite minimal, which is a good thing - Not very extensible IMO MonoRail - Very extensible - Has everything + the kitchen sink (bad) - Bad end-to-end experience Instead of trying to play the catch up game I'd go for a totally different route. First. define the mission and vision. Since the beginning MonoRail was about productivity. Does this still make sense? What has change in this space? Are projects simpler or more complex? What about the cloud? Second, features should make sense for the vision, and this should be your bar. Simply dont invest time/energy in whatever deviates from the mission. Third, end to end: what makes the tool successful is not only the Fx, but samples, templates and VS integration. I have quite some experience with VS, and could certainly help here. Thoughts? 2010/7/14 Henry Conceição <[email protected]>: > You're right about both affirmations. Imho, on the next version, the > core should contain only th... hammett http://hammett.castleproject.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Castle Project Developmen... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Castle Project Development List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en.
