Hamilton, please do prototype something, that would be really nice. Cheers John
On 17/07/2010, at 1:30, hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm biased, but I'd favor extensibility. One - if not the - key factor > for Windsor success is its extensibility. I'd like to see MonoRail as > a minimal core with strong extension points. An user can "put > together" a flavor of MR that meet his needs. Extensions work > side-by-side. I'd love to prototype something along these lines if the > idea resonates with the rest of you. > > And yes, I agree with Henry. It should be compatible with MVC - which > is not difficult. > > > > 2010/7/16 Henry Conceição <[email protected]>: >> I totally agree that we should have very clearly and well defined mission >> and must be focused on it. And that we should not play catch with Ms. >> >> I think that productivity is still valid, but the magnitude have changed. In >> the past was a webforms x mvc comparison, but today we have many tools that >> are good as monorail is. >> >> Another great change imo, is that today we have an ecosystem towards mvc on >> the .Net land. We can reuse existing view engines, routing engines, binders, >> etc if we want to. >> >> On Jul 15, 2010 9:50 PM, "hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Exactly. >> >> So going back to the original theme. I'd invite you to step back and >> see the whole picture. I see asp.net mvc as a quite successful >> *blessed* solution from MS. I also see Fubu MVC and possible others >> offering different perspectives on this space. >> >> I dont do web development anymore - unfortunately - but I dont think I >> would be totally happy with MS' offering or MonoRail. >> >> asp.net MVC: >> - has a great end-to-end experience (Fx + VS Integration + templates) >> - Framework is quite minimal, which is a good thing >> - Not very extensible IMO >> >> MonoRail >> - Very extensible >> - Has everything + the kitchen sink (bad) >> - Bad end-to-end experience >> >> Instead of trying to play the catch up game I'd go for a totally >> different route. >> First. define the mission and vision. Since the beginning MonoRail was >> about productivity. Does this still make sense? What has change in >> this space? Are projects simpler or more complex? What about the >> cloud? >> Second, features should make sense for the vision, and this should be >> your bar. Simply dont invest time/energy in whatever deviates from the >> mission. >> Third, end to end: what makes the tool successful is not only the Fx, >> but samples, templates and VS integration. I have quite some >> experience with VS, and could certainly help here. >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> 2010/7/14 Henry Conceição <[email protected]>: >> >>> You're right about both affirmations. Imho, on the next version, the >>> core should contain only th... >> >> hammett >> http://hammett.castleproject.org/ >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Castle Project Developmen... >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Castle Project Development List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > hammett > http://hammett.castleproject.org/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Castle Project Development List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Castle Project Development List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en.
