I'm biased, but I'd favor extensibility. One - if not the - key factor
for Windsor success is its extensibility. I'd like to see MonoRail as
a minimal core with strong extension points. An user can "put
together" a flavor of MR that meet his needs. Extensions work
side-by-side. I'd love to prototype something along these lines if the
idea resonates with the rest of you.

And yes, I agree with Henry. It should be compatible with MVC - which
is not difficult.



2010/7/16 Henry Conceição <[email protected]>:
> I totally agree that we should have very clearly and well defined mission
> and must be focused on it. And that we should not play catch with Ms.
>
> I think that productivity is still valid, but the magnitude have changed. In
> the past was a webforms x mvc comparison, but today we have many tools that
> are good as monorail is.
>
> Another great change imo, is that today we have an ecosystem towards mvc on
> the .Net land. We can reuse existing view engines, routing engines, binders,
> etc if we want to.
>
> On Jul 15, 2010 9:50 PM, "hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Exactly.
>
> So going back to the original theme. I'd invite you to step back and
> see the whole picture. I see asp.net mvc as a quite successful
> *blessed* solution from MS. I also see Fubu MVC and possible others
> offering different perspectives on this space.
>
> I dont do web development anymore - unfortunately - but I dont think I
> would be totally happy with MS' offering or MonoRail.
>
> asp.net MVC:
> - has a great end-to-end experience (Fx + VS Integration + templates)
> - Framework is quite minimal, which is a good thing
> - Not very extensible IMO
>
> MonoRail
> - Very extensible
> - Has everything + the kitchen sink (bad)
> - Bad end-to-end experience
>
> Instead of trying to play the catch up game I'd go for a totally
> different route.
> First. define the mission and vision. Since the beginning MonoRail was
> about productivity. Does this still make sense? What has change in
> this space? Are projects simpler or more complex? What about the
> cloud?
> Second, features should make sense for the vision, and this should be
> your bar. Simply dont invest time/energy in whatever deviates from the
> mission.
> Third, end to end: what makes the tool successful is not only the Fx,
> but samples, templates and VS integration. I have quite some
> experience with VS, and could certainly help here.
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> 2010/7/14 Henry Conceição <[email protected]>:
>
>> You're right about both affirmations. Imho, on the next version, the
>> core should contain only th...
>
> hammett
> http://hammett.castleproject.org/
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