Okay, Dave, so I won't ask you to come to Illinois to help me paint my boat 
<grin>.  Things like "lateral forces, twisting moments, pivot points" are all 
things familiar to engineers like me--and we're only afraid of what we don't 
know.  I'm thinking all those things through--which is why I explained my 
analysis in the rest of my message.  I'm also familiar with crushed bodies 
from both angles--I used to be a paramedic, and I was crushed in a pickup 
truck three years ago when I was broadsided at an intersection.  That's beside 
the point, other than the fact I've lived this long and don't want to cut my 
life shorter than necessary <grin again>.

I bet I could get John to come up and help me--met him and his wife at 
StrictlySail last weekend and they're really nice people <grinning a third 
time>.  

When it comes down to the physics of the situation--as long as I can keep the 
boat from leaning more than a few inches off vertical, there's very little 
sideways force.  Once we go beyond that, things become much more difficult.  I 
need to ensure that won't happen.  And since I have six long bunks, I'll 
probably choose the safe route and pull away part of them at a time--maybe 
fore and aft on one side and center on the other, then swap once the paint is 
dry.  These bunks are about three feet long each...

David Shaddock


> You're starting to scare me - balancing on the keel?  - brings up all sort
> things like lateral forces, twisting moments, pivot points, crushed bodies 
> 
> Dave
> C27 #5212
> Windabout
> Cape Cod, MA
> http://dpbcc.home.comcast.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:04 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: bottom paint question
> 
> Mark's got a great point about the life-safety question.  And Dave's idea 
> about rotating the jackstands also brings up the importance of chaining them
> 
> so they can't move.  In my situation, I had strongly considered pulling away
> a 
> few bunks at a time, doing all the work needed, and then replacing them
> before 
> moving on.  It's all underwater most of the time, anyway, so having some lap
> 
> marks wouldn't be a HUGE issue.  My trailer bunks are attached to the frame
> by 
> large stainless steel eyebolts and it would be easy to raise or lower them.
> 
> 
> I had also thought about just moving them back about four inches--harder to
> do 
> the sanding, but okay for paintwork and would probably save my life and our 
> boat if the strap arrangement failed.  After reading in the last Mainsheet 
> about a Tartan 3700 which had its deck cleats fail in a storm (stainless
> bolts 
> sheared off!) I'm a little more hesitant about trusting them to manage the 
> side loads of a heavy boat, even if distributed over, say, three straps per 
> side.
> 
> On the other hand, if I start out balanced and I've got three equally-
> tensioned straps on either side of my boat, holding with, say, 1000 pounds 
> each at a 45 degree angle, then I've got about 770 pounds each (times three)
> 
> of resistance to the boat starting to flop over.  That's a lot more than I 
> could possibly produce, even if Jeane and I are both sanding hard on the
> same 
> side.  I probably don't need nearly that much tension.  But my deck cleats 
> ought to be able to withstand it, especially as a steady pull without the 
> jerking that the Tartan may have suffered in the storm.
> 
> Opinions?
> David Shaddock
> 
> 
> > I had mine on stands when I redid my bottom a few years ago.  I had an
> extra
> > stand that I used like using a spare tire to rotate the tires.  Once I had
> > the hull barrier coated except for where the stands were and it was dry
> > enough to work with I simply put the extra stand along side the one I
> wanted
> > to move, set it in place took out the other stand, moved it to the next
> etc.
> > Then I barrier coated the remaining areas.  Did this process when I was
> > stripping and sanding the bottom as well. Take your time make sure they
> are
> > properly set and chained as you move them.  I worked on my drive which is
> > paved - on gravel make sure you put something under the feet of the stands
> > to keep them from moving.   Depending on the paint you use make sure you
> > wait enough time before moving the stands.  
> > 
> > Getting all that old paint off is a chore - even with a remover but the
> > results are worth it. 
> > There are pics on my web site showing the before and after - I have to say
> > new barrier coat looks so nice it's almost a shame to cover it with bottom
> > paint.  
> > 
> > Of course today we are in the throes of a northeaster so I won't be doing
> > any boat work 
> > 
> > Dave - snowed in
> > C27 #5212
> > Windabout
> > Cape Cod, MA
> > http://dpbcc.home.comcast.net
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:27 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: catalina27-talk: bottom paint question
> > 
> > I have been considering putting a barrier coat on the bottom this year 
> > while still on the hard.  The boat rests in a cradle on a stabilized 
> > gravel surface. Has anyone successfully used a jackstand(s) to allow 
> > access under the pads that are attached to the cradle? It is too long a 
> > process to just paint those areas while in the hoist before launch. That 
> > is how I did the VC-17.
> > 
> > Art Snapper
> > Sabbatical #6610
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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