Thanks Jay and Alicia. I didn’t see first reply though I was looking for it. Appreciate it. I am going to try the uploading to eBird. I didn’t know you could do that It’s interesting looking at the spectrogram and comparing between the trillers too. Although obviously not foolproof it can help you hear the notes in a slightly different way.
Linda > On Jul 9, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Alicia <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Linda, > > Jay replied a couple days ago - forwarded below. > > Best - > > Alicia > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Possible Worm-eating Warblers in Lansing NY > Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:02:10 -0400 > From: Jay McGowan <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Jay McGowan <[email protected]> > To: Linda Orkin <[email protected]> > CC: Barbara Bauer Sadovnic <[email protected]>, KitKat PonyBird > <[email protected]>, Cayugabirds-L <[email protected]> > > > Hi Linda, > Yes, clicking that will give us a record of it, but it won't be a lot to go > on otherwise. One thing that will help long-term would be to make a recording > of the bird, then upload it to an eBird checklist (doing some light editing > following our best practices whenever possible). This won't have any > immediate effect on the model of course, but longer term it will provide us > with more diverse examples to train on. > > Jay > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:34 AM Linda Orkin <[email protected]> wrote: >> Jay I wonder if you can say what we should do if we know song ID is >> incorrect. I got worm eating warbler for chipping sparrow down by vas’s park >> rink today and I clicked no match. Is that the best way to tri and alert >> Merlin to an incorrect choice? >> >> Linda Orkin >> >>> On Jul 6, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Jay McGowan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> This is a good reminder that the new Sound ID function in Merlin is a great >>> way to cue into new sounds and learn to ID birds, but should never be taken >>> as the final word on an identification. In this case, trilling species like >>> Worm-eating Warbler, Chipping Sparrow, Dark-eyed Junco, and even Pine >>> Warbler can be challenging for even experienced birders to identify with >>> confidence, and the sound ID model has trouble being sure as well. Juncos >>> in particular pose a challenge, with their extreme variation between >>> individuals. So certainly, if you're in the right habitat, look a little >>> harder for a bird flagged as a possible Worm-eating, but in the cases you >>> describe, these were almost certainly Chipping Sparrows. >>> >>> P.S. I'd be happy to take a listen to a recording if you want to send it >>> privately. >>> >>> Jay >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 6:38 PM Barbara Bauer Sadovnic <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> The same thing happened to me today, also while eating breakfast on my >>>> porch, in Enfield! I also tried BirdNET, and got the same result, >>>> although that might have been a “wild guess.” When I went looking for it I >>>> thought I saw a chipping sparrow, but couldn’t get a good look. >>>> >>>> Later in the day the bird (I think the same bird) was closer, and was >>>> identified as a chipping sparrow. But I couldn’t find it. >>>> >>>> Just now I heard it again, and again Merlin thought “worm-eating warbler.” >>>> When I got closer Merlin changed his mind to chipping sparrow, and when I >>>> finally got a good look, I did see chipping sparrow, singing. >>>> >>>> I am really enjoying the new Merlin. >>>> >>>>> On Jul 4, 2021, at 1:15 PM, KitKat PonyBird <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> While enjoying breakfast on my back porch today, I heard an unfamiliar >>>>> bird. The new Sound ID on the Merlin app came up with Worm-eating >>>>> Warbler. >>>>> >>>>> Merlin says this bird is rare for this area. I heard at least three of >>>>> the same song from different locations at nearly the same time. Still >>>>> hearing them around. >>>>> >>>>> I did a couple of recordings, but don't know (yet) how to share them. >>>>> It's definitely different from the chipping sparrows I usually hear. >>>>> >>>>> Wish I'd been able to get a visual. >>>>> >>>>> Happy Birding >>>>> -- >>>>> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >>>>> Welcome and Basics >>>>> Rules and Information >>>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>>> Archives: >>>>> The Mail Archive >>>>> Surfbirds >>>>> BirdingOnThe.Net >>>>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >>>> Welcome and Basics >>>> Rules and Information >>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>> Archives: >>>> The Mail Archive >>>> Surfbirds >>>> BirdingOnThe.Net >>>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>> -- >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jay McGowan >>> Macaulay Library >>> Cornell Lab of Ornithology >>> [email protected] >>> -- >>> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >>> Welcome and Basics >>> Rules and Information >>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>> Archives: >>> The Mail Archive >>> Surfbirds >>> BirdingOnThe.Net >>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>> -- > > > -- > Jay McGowan > Macaulay Library > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > [email protected] > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
