Great to hear that Matt!!

I personally also don't need to much guidance in my studies, but a few  
lines of breakdown would assist. I don't think it needs to be a study- 
guide, it's a lab workbook :-)

Again I totally agree with Matt on this one

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Rick Mur
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On 6 dec 2009, at 02:04, Matt Hill wrote:

> I dont think so.
>
> CCIE is high level stuff.  Spoon feeding wont help anyone going for
> their lab.  A "real" proctor will actually give you LESS info than
> what are in the hints in the current workbook format.  If what is in
> the books currently is not enough, then whoever is reading them needs
> to go back and sit their CCNP and get a few years experience on their
> belt then come back and sit CCIE v5 or v6 when it comes out.
>
> I think the current format and amount of hints is ideal, and any more
> would be detrimental rather than helpful for the reasons already
> mentioned.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
> CCIE #22386
> CCSI #31207
>
> 2009/12/6 Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>:
>> Hi guys, just fishing for the information here...
>>
>> Do you think it would be helpful if our solution guides included more
>> "proctor hints" in addition to solutions?
>>
>> For example, today we would provide you with configuration solution
>> and few sentences that explain configuration. In some, relatively
>> rare, cases, we include either some hints or simulated conversations
>> with Proctor. Do you find these useful? Should we, perhaps, add
>> "proctor hints" to more questions?
>>
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>>
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>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 00:32, Matt Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> You have two options to "simulate the proctor" during studies:
>>>
>>> 1) refer to the hints in the proctor guide. I use the proctor guide
>>> when I study as opposed to the questions only book. I scroll so I  
>>> see
>>> the entire question, read it and do it if I can. If I get stuck I
>>> scroll further and read the hints. If I'm really stuck I'll scroll  
>>> and
>>> look at the answer to try and figure out what is being asked.
>>>
>>> 2) attend a bootcamp with an instructor you can ask questions of
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 06/12/2009, at 11:24, Wilson Tuma <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys
>>>>
>>>> Please check and correct the following. ( Volume II  Lab 12
>>>> Workbook, Ver 11).
>>>>
>>>> 1.  Task 2.2.
>>>>
>>>>      Issue: Last statement is uncompleted.
>>>>
>>>>      Verify all three switches.  If you notice that some Port-
>>>> channel interface are .......
>>>>
>>>> 2.  Task 8.2
>>>>
>>>>      The statement  bgp confederation peers 64513  seems out of
>>>> place on router 9 in the solution Guide..
>>>>
>>>>      In the Questions router 9  is in as  64512 is peering to
>>>> router 6 in as 64512.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Questions.
>>>>   How do can we  simulate the proctor during practice?
>>>>
>>>>   When I meet a  tough question while studying I am forced to go
>>>> look at the solution. But I just realized that is not helping me as
>>>> it seems to raise another set of why's.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Wilson F. Tuma
>>>> ====================================
>>>> CCNP, CCNA, MCSE,  MCSA
>>>> Box  1784 Douala
>>>> Cell  : +237 77 7753 753
>>>> Email : [email protected]
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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