Have you guys looked at the Volume III labs yet?

They meet everything you guys are talking about. The solutions are given
without a lot of comment for those that want just the facts.  Then there is
the solution explanation/clarification.  This can sometimes be a brief
explanation or may be a detailed explanation of the technology.

Regards,
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of L. Jankok
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:25 AM
To: Marko Milivojevic
Cc: RS Ipexpert.; Wilson Tuma
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Issues with Volume II Lab 12 Workbook

If I look at the internetworkexpert I see that they have a combined
approach.

Doing a lab is about strategy and planning as well as knowledge and skills..
Keeping the solution guide sparse doesn't really help to improve the quality
of the exam simulation for this is something entirely up to the candidate to
adhere or not to adhere to..

On the other hand I see solutions guide and proctor guide as two
different entities..
The proctor guide should be sparse..
The solutions guide could be like internetworkexpert does...

At the end of the day if someone wants to cheat on a question he/she will
do this even if your solutions guide is sparse.. but on the other hand if
someone who didn't cheat wants to attest after the test if he/she has taken
the right strategy, planning and interpretation.. well than a sparse
solution guide
wouldn't help much.

Just my 2cents.


2009/12/6 Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>:
> Hi guys, just fishing for the information here...
>
> Do you think it would be helpful if our solution guides included more
> "proctor hints" in addition to solutions?
>
> For example, today we would provide you with configuration solution
> and few sentences that explain configuration. In some, relatively
> rare, cases, we include either some hints or simulated conversations
> with Proctor. Do you find these useful? Should we, perhaps, add
> "proctor hints" to more questions?
>
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 00:32, Matt Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You have two options to "simulate the proctor" during studies:
>>
>> 1) refer to the hints in the proctor guide. I use the proctor guide
>> when I study as opposed to the questions only book. I scroll so I see
>> the entire question, read it and do it if I can. If I get stuck I
>> scroll further and read the hints. If I'm really stuck I'll scroll and
>> look at the answer to try and figure out what is being asked.
>>
>> 2) attend a bootcamp with an instructor you can ask questions of
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Matt
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 06/12/2009, at 11:24, Wilson Tuma <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi guys
>>>
>>> Please check and correct the following. ( Volume II  Lab 12
>>> Workbook, Ver 11).
>>>
>>> 1.  Task 2.2.
>>>
>>>      Issue: Last statement is uncompleted.
>>>
>>>      Verify all three switches.  If you notice that some Port-
>>> channel interface are .......
>>>
>>> 2.  Task 8.2
>>>
>>>      The statement  bgp confederation peers 64513  seems out of
>>> place on router 9 in the solution Guide..
>>>
>>>      In the Questions router 9  is in as  64512 is peering to
>>> router 6 in as 64512.
>>>
>>>
>>> Questions.
>>>   How do can we  simulate the proctor during practice?
>>>
>>>   When I meet a  tough question while studying I am forced to go
>>> look at the solution. But I just realized that is not helping me as
>>> it seems to raise another set of why's.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Wilson F. Tuma
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