Hi Harry,

Unfortunately, I did not see that the latest binary update was from 2008. I
do not have access to any newer binaries for Linux, as I'm on MacOS.

Maybe you can use the MineProt software from the quote I mentioned
previously to (in a roundabout way) accomplish the CIF file generation?

"“Huiwenke:

MineProt (https://github.com/huiwenke/MineProt) can be used to curate
AlphaFold predictions, where PDBs are converted into CIFs using MAXIT (
https://sw-tools.rcsb.org/apps/MAXIT/index.html). The generated CIF files
support Mol* visualization and downstream analysis such as AlphaFill (
https://github.com/PDB-REDO/alphafill).
Another possible option is to use MAXIT directly, while it needs several
additional steps to make generated CIF files support older versions of
Mol*. Please refer to
https://github.com/huiwenke/MineProt/blob/master/web/api/pdb2alphacif/index.php
.”"

Best,

Nick



---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Nicholas Clark <ndcla...@buffalo.edu>
Date: Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] mmCIF files from PDB format for AlphaFill
To: Harry Powell <hrp-ccp...@virginmedia.com>
Cc: Harry Powell <hrp-ccp...@virginmedia.com>


Hi Harry,

MAXIT binaries are located here:

https://sw-tools.rcsb.org/apps/MAXIT/binary.html

Best,

Nick


Nicholas D. Clark (He/Him)
PhD Candidate
Malkowski Lab
University at Buffalo
Department of Structural Biology
Jacob's School of Medicine & Biomedical Sciences
955 Main Street, RM 5130
Buffalo, NY 14203

Cell: 716-830-1908


On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:58 AM Harry Powell <hrp-ccp...@virginmedia.com>
wrote:

> Hi Nick
>
> Thanks for responding, but see my earlier reply to Avinash - the build
> doesn’t like my brand-new, hot off the production line Linux and the
> location of pre-built exes is not obvious.
>
> best wishes
>
> Harry
>
> > On 23 Feb 2024, at 12:43, Nicholas Clark <
> 0000b2b1c7e93c2d-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Harry,
> >
> > Have you tried MAXIT from the PDB? It can be installed locally:
> >
> >
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsw-tools.rcsb.org%2Fapps%2FMAXIT%2Findex.html&data=05%7C02%7Cndclark2%40g-mail.buffalo.edu%7C2f0b5620024b4430110208dc346f20b3%7C96464a8af8ed40b199e25f6b50a20250%7C0%7C0%7C638442899115806976%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=W3%2BzEKkB1%2BpJznVNIUjTDqMcww3v3YxylxULJCOLgf4%3D&reserved=0
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> > Best,
> >
> > Nick Clark
> >
> > Nicholas D. Clark (He/Him)
> > PhD Candidate
> > Malkowski Lab
> > University at Buffalo
> > Department of Structural Biology
> > Jacob's School of Medicine & Biomedical Sciences
> > 955 Main Street, RM 5130
> > Buffalo, NY 14203
> >
> > Cell: 716-830-1908
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:36 AM Harry Powell <
> 0000193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Hi Martin, Marcin, Arturo, Avinash
> >
> > First off, I’m **NOT** saying that there’s anything wrong with the CIF
> files produced by these routes - just that AlphaFill doesn’t like them (it
> *does* like CIFs from AlphaFold -
> >
> > > alphafill process alphafold.cif filled.cif
> > > 1DKE
>  =========-----------------------------------------------  14%
> >
> > But (while Alphafold models are wonderful, have put us all out of jobs,
> etc, etc) they are just a starting point for my project and, for this
> purpose, no good in themselves.
> >
> > Martin, Marcin - gemmi would be a good way to go, but -
> >
> > > >>> import gemmi
> > > >>> structure = gemmi.read_structure('old.pdb')
> > > >>> structure.make_mmcif_document().write_file('new.cif')
> > >
> > > alphafill process new.cif filled.cif
> > > Structure file does not seem to contain polymers, perhaps
> pdbx_poly_seq_scheme is missing?
> >
> > > gemmi convert old.pdb gemmi.cif
> > > alphafill process gemmi.cif filled.cif
> > > Structure file does not seem to contain polymers, perhaps
> pdbx_poly_seq_scheme is missing?
> >
> > :-(
> >
> > Arturo - I’ve never scripted PyMol, but saving as CIF from the graphics
> interface -
> >
> > > alphafill process pymol.cif filled.cif
> > > Structure file does not seem to contain polymers, perhaps
> pdbx_poly_seq_scheme is missing?
> >
> >
> > Avinash - Maxit *might* work, but I fell at the first hurdle - although
> the help page says
> >
> > > Note: It is highly recommended to utilize binary distribution,
> >
> > it’s not obvious where to get this. So I download and try to build from
> source, and get (after unpacking and setting ENVs) -
> >
> > > make
> > > Warning: this seems to be an unsupported operating system.
> > >
> > > Supported systems are:
> > >   SunOS ...... version 4.1.x and 5.2 or higher
> > >   Linux ...... any version
> > >   SGI IRIX ... version 5.3-6.4
> > > make: *** [Makefile:32: compile] Error 1
> >
> > which is odd, because this is a new Linux system installed this week
> >
> > > [hpowell@ld-mjeste3 maxit-v11.100-prod-src]$ more /etc/redhat-release
> > > Rocky Linux release 9.3 (Blue Onyx)
> >
> > best wishes all
> >
> > Harry
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On 23 Feb 2024, at 11:55, Martin Malý <martin.maly...@email.cz> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Harry,
> > >
> > > You can try to read your PDB file and save it as mmCIF using gemmi:
> > >
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> > > Best wishes,
> > > Martin
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi folks
> > >>
> > >> I am in the situation of having coordinates of apoproteins (i.e.
> polypeptide chains without prosthetic groups) in PDB format - but I need
> them in mmCIF format so I can run them through a locally built copy of
> AlphaFill.
> > >>
> > >> I need something I can install locally, so web services are a no-no.
> > >>
> > >> I’ve tried obabel and Coot to convert the PDB to mmCIF, but AlphaFill
> doesn’t like the files produced. Before I spend time searching through
> available options on the interweb, does anyone know of a utility that can
> provide me with suitable mmCIFs? Note that I *only* have the coordinates
> because they come from modelling.
> > >>
> > >> I’m assuming that I’ve run obabel and Coot correctly!
> > >>
> > >> obabel:
> > >>
> > >>> alphafill process protein_obabel.cif  filled.cif
> > >>> Structure file does not seem to contain polymers, perhaps
> pdbx_poly_seq_scheme is missing?
> > >>
> > >> Coot:
> > >>
> > >>> alphafill process protein_A-coot-0.cif filled.cif
> > >>> Error reading file ‘protein_A-coot-0.cif'
> > >>>  >> parse error at line 2: This file does not seem to be an mmCIF
> file
> > >>
> > >> Harry
> > >>
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