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Dear Francisco
I have found Kevin Cowtan's CCP4 Fffear program most excellent for searching maps for missing stuff. He has some good examples in the documentation. You can use a refmac 2fo-fc map to search but Fffear expects a FOM. So I have started using FWT and PHIWT with a dummy FOM column of all 1.0s (I add mine in SFTOOLS). It is very important to filter the model and the map with a 6-ish angstroem radius as he suggests. If you want just hints where to put the molecules then 10 degree steps is ok but these might not refine into the density. You can do a finer search but that will be a lot longer searching. Make a 'solvent' mask of the current model to exclude hits to the ones you know about. You can use SFALL and then MAPMASK or else the excellent MAMA. You need to apply a NOT command in MAMA anyway to invert the logic of the map since you want stuff that is in what you currently think of as the 'solvent' area.

Fffear gives you a pdb with lots of possible hits but I usually trim it to the top 26 since these are the best and have distinct chain letters. There was some discussion on this BB a while back on how to go through and delete false fffear hits by chain id. Fffear thinks all the residues are ALA but will keep all your residue atoms in the solutions - looks a bit odd when they belong to an RNA probe however ;)

Having said all this I am sure we will soon have a great new version with a swashbuckling name. I have used Fffear to search DMMULTI maps but soon I expect I will be using 'HAWKINS' to search PIRATE maps ;)

shiver me timbers!
                         good luck
                                       Martyn

Martyn F. Symmons
Oppenheimer Research Fellow
Department of Pathology
University of Cambridge
"Abair ach beagan agus abair gu math e"
Seanfhacal Gaidhlig (Gaelic Proverb).

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Dear All :

I got a pretty difficult case (I guess) of Molecular Replacement. My
protein crystallize in a P21 spacegroup with cell dimensions of around
100 x 200 x 220 A. By Matthews analysis the ASU could accomodate from 16
to 18 molecules of the protein (Molecular weight around 38 kDa). The
resolution of the data is around 2.7 A.

I have run Phaser and it found 10 molecules within the ASU, but the
program failed to find more. I have made and NCS averaging with these
molecules to build up a more precise model, and tried again Phaser with
the same results. I have also tried Molrep with the same results.

Does anybody experienced a problem like this ?. Any suggestion of
strategies to find the rest of the molecules that will complete the
ASU ?.

Any help will be sincerely appreciated.

Cheers

Francisco




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