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This sounds quite reasonable - I do not know the grasp format, an sc only
reads in grasp format. If it defines the surface via triangles and their
order is not important, all you would have to do to invert the surface is
to swap two points per triangle. This could be easily accomplished once
the format of the grasp surface is known.

Tim

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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardia wrote:

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> Dear Tea and Tim,
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> This may be a stupid idea, but what about this:
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> 1. Superpose the proteins of interest
> 2. Compute their molecular surfaces with msms/Grasp or generate a mask
> with an appropriated probe
> 3. Take one of these surfaces and "invert it" over a cube defined from a
> clipping plane behind your region of interest (so the surface is put
> "inwards out" locally; for obvious reasons you cannot do this with all
> the surface)
> 4. Measure their complementarity with Michael Lawrence's "sc" program
> (in ccp4). You might need to translate stepwise if sc doesn't work on
> surfaces with clashes.
>
> Perhaps one of the tools to work with maps/mask could do the inversion?
>
> Or perhaps it's indeed a stupid idea, after all.
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> Cheers,
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> Miguel
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> En/na Tim Gruene ha escrit:
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> > You can use grasp or msms/Raster3D  to calculate and visualise protein
> > surfaces.
> > But how would you _compare_ surfaces quantitatively?
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> > On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Tea Pavkov wrote:
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> >> Dear ccp4bb,
> >>
> >> I would like to compare surfaces (not only ligand binding sites) of the
> >> proteins within the same family. Do you know if there is a program doing
> >> that or do you know people who are involved in developing something like
> >> that?
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance!
> >>
> >> Tea
> >>
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