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Hi, Wu,

When you tried refmac, did you also try some different models for rigid groups using TLS ? I have seen several cases where there were reasonable displacements which could be modeled by TLS tensors, what led to a serious decrease on the R factors. ( this will prompt me to raise one other question on the next e-mail concerning docking ...).
   Anyway, there are also other possibilites as other have pointed out.

Jorge

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Dear all,
Thank you very much for your replies.
The spacegroup of my crystal is p212121. The data was processed with D*TREK. I soaked my crystal in KI and collected the data using in-house x-ray machine. I used SnB to find the position of heavy atom (I) and refined the heavy atom and did solvent flatten in SHARP. The model was auto-built using ARP/WARP in CCP4. Then I manually revised the model in Program O.


I have checked the logfile of TRUNCATE. It seems no twining in my crystal. I also have tried to refine my model in Refmac5 with restraint refinement and it seems no improvement in R factors.

Any further suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

Best
Mousheng Wu



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Hi Mousheng,

what's your space group ? Are you certain you are in the correct space
group ? How did you solve your structure ? De novo or MR,. if MR have
you tried composite omit maps and ensured that what you have modeled is
indeed correct and not model bias from the MR solution ? Is there a
significant drop in I/sigI ? Then you might use that as your resolution
cutoff - data processed with HKL, Mosflm or XDS ?

Juergen

Wu Mousheng wrote:

Dear all,



I am refining my model with 2.0A using CNS. I have fitted most of the
protein sequence into the model (150 of 160 aa). I also added 100
water molecules into the model. The final R and Rfree factor are about
26% and 28%, respectively. I am wondering why I can not refine my
model to low R and Rfree factors below 25%.  The geometry of my final
model is very good. 96% residues are in most favorable region.



I think my data is quite good. I/sigma(unaverage) and completeness at
highest resolution shell is 2.3 and 99%. Rmerge is about 6%.
Redundancy is about 5.



Is my model acceptable based on the R and Rfree factors? Is there any
reason for the high R and Rfree factors?



Thanks!



Best,

Mousheng Wu,

Institute of Molecular and Cell Biology, Singapore





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