Hello Garib,

I just tried JLigand. It's amazing. I opened the pdb file which was made by
sketcher and save lib file and coordinate file.  Then load these files to
coot.  Everything works fine now. I think I need to double check the ligand
as you advised.

Thanks a lot to you all.

Regards,
Yahui

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Garib Murshudov <[email protected]>wrote:

> Perhaps you could try to use JLigand. It may do a better job. it is
> available from:
>
> www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/mxstat/
>
> In the jligand session there are two tutorials also. they may help you to
> run and generate your ligand description.
> If any problem please let me know.
>
> In general refmac is not the best way of generating ligand. In any case you
> have to check you ligand after it has been generated. One tiny electron or
> proton can change chemistry completely.
>
>
> regards
> Garib
>
>
>
> On 9 Jun 2010, at 12:23, Matthias Zebisch wrote:
>
>  Hi Yahui!
>>
>> I am having this problem as well again and agin. Most problematic is it,
>> if you have non-standard atoms in your compound.
>> I don't really know whrere the problem lies, but here is what I do:
>> Do not use sketcher!
>> Simply generate your ligand using coot by placing atoms into the density
>> (you may start from standard compounds if available).
>> Save your ligand in a pdb file and make sure (text editor), that all atoms
>> belong to the same compound indicated by the same 3 letter identfier (e.g.
>> LIG).
>> Merge this PDB file with your protein in Coot and save.
>> Run Refmac.
>> Refmac will abort but before stopping it will put out a library file with
>> recommended bonds and angles and so on.
>> This file you should manually edit putting in your chemical knowlege of
>> the ligand.
>>
>> Use this cif file in a second run for refmac and for all coot real space
>> refinements.
>>
>> Have fun,
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>> PS: sometimes (no non-standard atoms) a simpler way is to leave the field
>> "Regularize with Refmac" unchecked, when you create your final library file.
>>
>> Am 6/9/2010 12:23 PM, schrieb Yahui Yan:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Could you please help me with the sketcher?
>>>
>>> I'm trying to use ccp4 sketcher to generate a new ligand and then complex
>>> it with a protein in coot.  I've drawn the ligand, numbered each atom and
>>> defined each bond type. Then I ran save file, create library description.
>>> The pdb file was loaded to coot and worked fine. Then I imported cif file.
>>> However, when I tried to refine the ligand, a message popped out, saying 'No
>>> restrains'.  I double checked the numbering, I think it's Ok. Did I do
>>> anything wrong? I'm really struggling on this. If you need more information,
>>> please let me know. Thanks very much.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Yahui
>>>
>>
>>
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