Pictures are helpful to narrow the range of recommendations. It would be even 
more helpful to see the entire image, to know the orientation of the rotation 
axis, detector distance used, frame width, and any other information on the 
setup you can provide.

Nukri

 

Ruslan Sanishvili (Nukri), Ph.D.

GM/CA-CAT
Biosciences Division, ANL
9700 S. Cass Ave.
Argonne, IL 60439

Tel: (630)252-0665
Fax: (630)252-0667
[email protected] 

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dengzq1987
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] how to Collecting Data from Long Unit Cell Axes ?

 

hello Jürgen_Bosch,

 

because i have collected the data,but can't index.in some direction,the spot is 
separated .but the others are set close together(picture spot1 and spot 2).so  
we think there  is one  long unit cell axes.

 

2011-04-05 

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dengzq1987 

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发件人: Jürgen_Bosch 

发送时间: 2011-04-05  20:29:18 

收件人: dengzq1987 

抄送: [email protected] 

主题: Re: [ccp4bb] how to Collecting Data from Long Unit Cell Axes ? 

What do you consider long ? 200, 300 ? 600 A ? Before shooting try to run 
strategy or xplan. Move the detector back to first reliably be able to 
determine your cell. Then double your estimated mosaicity and see what strategy 
suggests. If you don't get many overlaps (<5%) then try a closer distance. 
Don't rotate 1degrees but take 1/2 of the mosaicity. Obviously you want to make 
good use of the detector area so adjust the edges to where your crystal really 
diffracts. And if that resolution leads to too many overlaps then limit your 
resolution and get first a good datasets home. You then can play with 2theta 
for a higher resolution dataset.

Another obvious thing to do and you don't mention what reduction program you 
use is to let XDS sort your problem out. Unless you collected to high 
resolution without being cautious XDS could help. If not, well then you had 
your experience and now should know better. 

SSRL has options to collect 450 A cells to 3A without much hassle. That was my 
largest cell so far.

Jürgen 

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Jürgen Bosch

Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology

Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute

615 North Wolfe Street, W8708

Baltimore, MD 21205

Phone: +1-410-614-4742

Lab:      +1-410-614-4894

Fax:      +1-410-955-3655

http://web.mac.com/bosch_lab/


On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:05, dengzq1987 <[email protected]> wrote:

        hello all,

        does anyone have the experience of  Collecting Data from Long Unit Cell 
Axes ? I have a crystal that diffracts to about 4 A. in some direction  the 
spots overlap. we can't use the data to index .we think it is because that 
there is a long unit cell axes. so  is there any method to solve this problem? 

         

        best wishes.

         

        2011-04-05 

        
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        dengzq1987 

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