Dear Phoebe,
I cannot imagine myself delivering maps and coordinates (after years of
work... I insist: after years of work) to a reviewer that could be, for
whatever chance, my best competitor (even if I suggested to the editor not
to include him/her as a reviewer... but decisions from editors are of all
kind).
I simply prefer not imagine this after two publications fuelled by clear,
direct and strong competition. That was stressful enough, already. If I
have to add to this stress the thought that my coordinates can go to the
"wrong" hands, then I think I would just give up or, alternatively, send
the work to a lower impact, fast-publishing journal and make my life easier
while sending my scientific future to the low-impact bin, killing future
opportunities.
Competition is there. I see that data to be deposited is strictly
confidential. I support the PDB to make the quality check work at the level
you mention, but not a reviewer: People are nice but the world is big and
competition is crazy… at least enough to make fraud or copy other's work.
The latter is less difficult; by copying ("simply copy and paste to my
computer this nice structure that I was looking for!"), there is no need to
invent anything.
About a wrongly fit compound, the reviewer can ask images about the model
in a map calculated at a specific sigma and in different orientations.
Maria
On 2 April 2012 18:43, Phoebe Rice <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can we leverage this to push journals to routinely allow reviewers access
> coordinates and maps?
>
> Outright fraud is outrageous, but I'm actually more worried about ligands
> fit to marginal density and other issues of under-supervised model building.
>
> =====================================
> Phoebe A. Rice
> Dept. of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
> The University of Chicago
> phone 773 834 1723
>
> http://bmb.bsd.uchicago.edu/Faculty_and_Research/01_Faculty/01_Faculty_Alphabetically.php?faculty_id=123
> http://www.rsc.org/shop/books/2008/9780854042722.asp
>
>
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:41:02 -0700
> >From: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]> (on behalf of
> "Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)" <[email protected]>)
> >Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] very informative - Trends in Data Fabrication
> >To: [email protected]
> >
> > Robbie has restored the PDB_REDO of 3k78
> >
> >
> >
> > It is at www.cmbi.ru.nl/pdb_redo/others/3k78.tar.bz2
> >
> >
> >
> > and Louise Jones form the IUCr office has kindly
> > made the article open access.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://journals.iucr.org/f/issues/2012/04/00/issconts.html
> >
> >
> >
> > BR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: CCP4 bulletin board
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bernhard
> > Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
> > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 06:06
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] very informative - Trends in
> > Data Fabrication
> >
> >
> >
> > >Hofkristallrat auA*er Dienst, is written as
> > Bernhard - unless you are referring to some other
> > guy with a french name Bernard.
> >
> >
> >
> > As one may extrapolate given my recent paper, I have
> > been called names a lot worse....
> >
> >
> >
> > A* And the book indeed is a bible of xtallography.
> >
> >
> >
> > Enough of this - it is becoming embarrassing. I wish
> > I had done a more careful job proofing, as over 500
> > errata attest to,
> >
> > and we all are only seeing further because we are
> > standing on the shoulders of giants. So once again
> > thanks
> >
> > to all the contributors I have pestered with my
> > questions on BB and then some, and to all those who
> > actually read BMC and
> >
> > submitted errata.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards, BR
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Bernhard Hieronimus Rupp, Hofkristallrat a.D.
> > 001 (925) 209-7429
> > +43 (676) 571-0536
> > [email protected]
> > [email protected]
> > http://www.ruppweb.org/
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Once the sun of science is standing low, even dwarfs
> > cast tall shadows
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Maria Solà
Dep. Structural Biology
IBMB-CSIC
Baldiri Reixach 10-12
08028 BARCELONA
Spain
Tel: (+34) 93 403 4950
Fax: (+34) 93 403 4979
e-mail: [email protected]
