We are thinking of including MG into core in one of future releases, probably 
by next summer. As to Coot, it will probably stay autonomous.

Eugene

On 1 Oct 2012, at 13:14, Dirk Kostrewa wrote:

> Dear Eugene,
> 
> thank you for your kind reply and your explanation!
> 
> Since the CCP4 download site offers Coot either as a stand-alone-package or 
> via the new package manager, I was hoping that new Coot releases could also 
> be handled by the wonderful CCP4 software update.
> 
> A software update mechanism for Coot, be it part of CCP4 or part of Coot, 
> would help the software administrator :-).
> 
> A related question just crossed my mind: when will Coot and CCP4mg become 
> part of the CCP4 core packages?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Dirk.
> 
> P.S.: I've sent Paul Emsley a CC of this little conversation.
> 
> 
> Am 01.10.12 13:13, schrieb eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk:
>> Thanks for nice question.
>> 
>> Currently, CCP4 update is applicable only to what is distributed as "CCP4 
>> core", which guarantees a definite location in $CCP4 directory. Also, 
>> updates are not supposed to deliver releases ("upgrades"), but rather 
>> smallish changes between them.
>> 
>> Coot is not part of CCP4 core, and in fact, is distributed in many different 
>> ways, therefore, CCP4 update mechanism cannot be applied to Coot 
>> straightforwardly, and it is unlikely to be applicable to Coot upgrades 
>> (e.g., 0.7 to 08).
>> 
>> However, the updater may be made a part of Coot package, which is something 
>> completely doable in principle, in which case it can deliver fixes for 
>> current release.
>> 
>> Eugene
>> 
>> 
>> On 1 Oct 2012, at 09:46, Dirk Kostrewa wrote:
>> 
>> Dear CCP4 developers,
>> 
>> this question might be interesting for many CCP4/Coot users:
>> 
>> will the Coot release 0.7 and future releases be made available to CCP4 
>> users via the CCP4 software update?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Dirk.
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Betreff:        [COOT] Release 0.7
>> Datum:  Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:49:45 +0100
>> Von:    Paul Emsley 
>> <paul.ems...@bioch.ox.ac.uk><mailto:paul.ems...@bioch.ox.ac.uk>
>> Antwort an:     Paul Emsley 
>> <paul.ems...@bioch.ox.ac.uk><mailto:paul.ems...@bioch.ox.ac.uk>
>> An:     c...@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:c...@jiscmail.ac.uk>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Coot-users,
>> 
>> We are pleased to announce Release 0.7 of Coot.
>> 
>> Source:
>> 
>> http://lmb.bioch.ox.ac.uk/coot/software/source/releases/coot-0.7.tar.gz
>> 
>> Binaries:
>> 
>> http://lmb.bioch.ox.ac.uk/coot/software/binaries/releases/
>> 
>> Mac 10.8:
>> 
>> http://psbmini.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/coot/stablereleases/Coot-0.7-stable_64bit_10.8.2.pkg.zip
>> 
>> 
>> Now stick a fork in me (as they say)...
>> 
>> Paul.
>> 
>> 
>> A few notes:
>> 
>>   o FEATURE: RCrane [RNA builder]
>> 
>>   o FEATURE: Cootaneer [RNA builder]
>> 
>>   o FEATURE: Het-groups are now represented with bond orders.
>> 
>>   o FEATURE: Ligand Builder - working in conjunction with cprodrg.
>> 
>>   o FEATURE: JLigand interface.
>> 
>>   o CHANGE: symmetry operator number are no longer zero indexed. Add
>>     trans component to symmetry file names.
>> 
>>   o CHANGE: Dotted surfaces now are coloured by atom type and are at
>>     atomic radii rather than 1A.
>> 
>>   o CHANGE: map transformation no longer has symmetry overwrite
>>     problems.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> *******************************************************
>> Dirk Kostrewa
>> Gene Center Munich
>> Department of Biochemistry
>> Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
>> Feodor-Lynen-Str. 25
>> D-81377 Munich
>> Germany
>> Phone:  +49-89-2180-76845
>> Fax:    +49-89-2180-76999
>> E-mail: kostr...@genzentrum.lmu.de<mailto:kostr...@genzentrum.lmu.de>
>> WWW:    www.genzentrum.lmu.de<http://www.genzentrum.lmu.de/>
>> *******************************************************
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> *******************************************************
> Dirk Kostrewa
> Gene Center Munich
> Department of Biochemistry
> Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
> Feodor-Lynen-Str. 25
> D-81377 Munich
> Germany
> Phone:        +49-89-2180-76845
> Fax:  +49-89-2180-76999
> E-mail:       kostr...@genzentrum.lmu.de
> WWW:  www.genzentrum.lmu.de
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