Hi Napo,

Apart from other things possible (wrong space group is often the culprit, but it seems like not your case), I would consider a possibility of crystallizing a different protein than expected.

see "Protein purification and crystallization artifacts: The tale usually not told"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?cmd=search&term=26660914
https://bioreproducibility.org/protein_purification_artifacts/

for examples - we wrote this one after encountering these issues again and again. This paper provides troubleshooting pointers for researchers facing difficulties in phasing or model building.

Also, ContaMiner seems to be a great resource:

https://strube.cbrc.kaust.edu.sa/contaminer/submit

Best wishes,

Ivan



With best regards,
Ivan Shabalin, Ph.D.
Research Scientist,
Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics,
University of Virginia,
1340 Jefferson Park Avenue, Pinn Hall,Room 4223,
Charlottesville, VA 22908
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shabalinig/
https://minorlab.org/person/ivan_s/

On 8/29/19 11:28, Napoleão wrote:
Deal all,
Sorry for the long post.
I have a data set obtained from a crystal produced after incubating a protease with a protein which is mostly composed by an antiparallel beta sheet. I have tried numerous approaches to solve it, and failed. Molecular replacement using Phaser, and the protease or the protein as a template yields no solution. However, molecular replacement using only part of the beta sheet yields LLG=320 TFZ==28.0 (see below).

The apparently good data extends to 1.9 A, as processed by XDS, and the space group is P1 (pointless agree). XDS info below:

SPACE_GROUP_NUMBER=    1
UNIT_CELL_CONSTANTS=    44.43    72.29    77.30  97.802  89.939 101.576

      a        b          ISa
  9.647E-01  3.176E-03   18.07

 RESOLUTION     NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS    COMPLETENESS R-FACTOR R-FACTOR COMPARED I/SIGMA   R-meas  CC(1/2)  Anomal  SigAno   Nano    LIMIT     OBSERVED  UNIQUE  POSSIBLE     OF DATA   observed expected                                      Corr      1.90       24890   19149     23814       80.4%      58.1% 63.7%    11482    0.77     82.2%    63.8*     3    0.694     492     total      163756  125884    146938       85.7%      10.6% 10.8%    75744    3.78     15.0%    99.0*    -3    0.761    5834


Xtriage in Phenix 1.16-3549 gives me all green lights (print below), suggesting the data presents no twinning, no translational NCS, no ice rings and is not anisotropic.
http://fullonline.org/science/phenix_xtriage_green.png

Molecular replacement in Phaser yields single solutions like:

    Solution annotation (history):
   SOLU SET  RFZ=3.0 TFZ=* PAK=0 LLG=29 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.8 PAK=1 LLG=310 TFZ==27.6
     LLG=320 TFZ==28.0
    SOLU SPAC P 1
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER  293.6   27.7  288.7 FRAC -0.02 0.02  0.02 BFAC
     -6.03
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER  294.0   27.9  288.8 FRAC -0.37 0.02  0.02 BFAC
     -6.52
    SOLU ENSEMBLE ensemble1 VRMS DELTA -0.1983 RMSD  0.49 #VRMS  0.21

or partial solutions like:

    Partial Solution #1 annotation (history):
   SOLU SET  RFZ=3.7 TFZ=* PAK=0 LLG=32 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=13.0 PAK=0 LLG=317 TFZ==30.2     LLG=331 TFZ==30.5 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=7.2 PAK=0 LLG=464 TFZ==18.5 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=5.7 PAK=1
     LLG=501 TFZ==6.8 LLG=509 TFZ==6.6
    SOLU SPAC P 1
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER   85.4  153.0  138.5 FRAC -0.01 -0.00 -0.00 BFAC
     -12.30
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER   86.2  153.2  139.5 FRAC -0.36 -0.01 -0.01 BFAC
     -9.16
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER   83.8  152.3  135.9 FRAC -0.00  0.00 -0.25 BFAC
     1.52
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER  191.2  109.1   39.3 FRAC -0.27 -0.01  0.22 BFAC
     10.18
    SOLU ENSEMBLE ensemble1 VRMS DELTA -0.0447 RMSD  0.49 #VRMS  0.44


However, after 1 refinement round in Phenix_Refine (Final: r_work = 0.4881 r_free = 0.5009) I got densities that are part good and part bad, and if I delete the bad parts and refine again, the good parts become bad. Please check the prints:

http://fullonline.org/science/good_part_of_density.png
http://fullonline.org/science/bad_part_of_density.png

What is the explanation for these molecular replacement results?
What else should I try? Arcimboldo takes 2 days+ to run and yields no good solution.

Thank you!
Regards,
     Napo


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