Are you *sure* there's no translational NCS ?

For example your first molecular replacement solution out of Phenix shows

EULER  293.6   27.7  288.7
FRAC -0.02  0.02  0.02
(that's "first molecule at origin in P1")

and

EULER  294.0   27.9  288.8
FRAC -0.37  0.02  0.02

which is essentially the same orientation, and a translation down one crystallographic axis (a*)

And this suggests to me that either Xtriage or Phaser is missing something here. Does Phaser find translational NCS in its initial data analysis ? Unmodeled translational NCS could cause significant problems with the molecular replacement search.

Phil Jeffrey
Princeton




On 8/29/19 11:28 AM, Napoleão wrote:
Deal all,
Sorry for the long post.
I have a data set obtained from a crystal produced after incubating a protease with a protein which is mostly composed by an antiparallel beta sheet. I have tried numerous approaches to solve it, and failed. Molecular replacement using Phaser, and the protease or the protein as a template yields no solution. However, molecular replacement using only part of the beta sheet yields LLG=320 TFZ==28.0 (see below).

The apparently good data extends to 1.9 A, as processed by XDS, and the space group is P1 (pointless agree). XDS info below:

SPACE_GROUP_NUMBER=    1
UNIT_CELL_CONSTANTS=    44.43    72.29    77.30  97.802  89.939 101.576

      a        b          ISa
  9.647E-01  3.176E-03   18.07

 RESOLUTION     NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS    COMPLETENESS R-FACTOR R-FACTOR COMPARED I/SIGMA   R-meas  CC(1/2)  Anomal  SigAno   Nano    LIMIT     OBSERVED  UNIQUE  POSSIBLE     OF DATA   observed expected                                      Corr      1.90       24890   19149     23814       80.4%      58.1% 63.7%    11482    0.77     82.2%    63.8*     3    0.694     492     total      163756  125884    146938       85.7%      10.6% 10.8%    75744    3.78     15.0%    99.0*    -3    0.761    5834


Xtriage in Phenix 1.16-3549 gives me all green lights (print below), suggesting the data presents no twinning, no translational NCS, no ice rings and is not anisotropic.
http://fullonline.org/science/phenix_xtriage_green.png

Molecular replacement in Phaser yields single solutions like:

    Solution annotation (history):
   SOLU SET  RFZ=3.0 TFZ=* PAK=0 LLG=29 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=8.8 PAK=1 LLG=310 TFZ==27.6
     LLG=320 TFZ==28.0
    SOLU SPAC P 1
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER  293.6   27.7  288.7 FRAC -0.02 0.02  0.02 BFAC
     -6.03
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER  294.0   27.9  288.8 FRAC -0.37 0.02  0.02 BFAC
     -6.52
    SOLU ENSEMBLE ensemble1 VRMS DELTA -0.1983 RMSD  0.49 #VRMS  0.21

or partial solutions like:

    Partial Solution #1 annotation (history):
   SOLU SET  RFZ=3.7 TFZ=* PAK=0 LLG=32 RFZ=2.8 TFZ=13.0 PAK=0 LLG=317 TFZ==30.2     LLG=331 TFZ==30.5 RFZ=2.4 TFZ=7.2 PAK=0 LLG=464 TFZ==18.5 RFZ=2.7 TFZ=5.7 PAK=1
     LLG=501 TFZ==6.8 LLG=509 TFZ==6.6
    SOLU SPAC P 1
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER   85.4  153.0  138.5 FRAC -0.01 -0.00 -0.00 BFAC
     -12.30
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER   86.2  153.2  139.5 FRAC -0.36 -0.01 -0.01 BFAC
     -9.16
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER   83.8  152.3  135.9 FRAC -0.00  0.00 -0.25 BFAC
     1.52
   SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER  191.2  109.1   39.3 FRAC -0.27 -0.01  0.22 BFAC
     10.18
    SOLU ENSEMBLE ensemble1 VRMS DELTA -0.0447 RMSD  0.49 #VRMS  0.44


However, after 1 refinement round in Phenix_Refine (Final: r_work = 0.4881 r_free = 0.5009) I got densities that are part good and part bad, and if I delete the bad parts and refine again, the good parts become bad. Please check the prints:

http://fullonline.org/science/good_part_of_density.png
http://fullonline.org/science/bad_part_of_density.png

What is the explanation for these molecular replacement results?
What else should I try? Arcimboldo takes 2 days+ to run and yields no good solution.

Thank you!
Regards,
     Napo


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