Thanks everyone for their wonderful suggestions.

Best

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On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 11:42 AM Patrick Loll <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kevin and Guillaume said it all quite well. I just want to stress one
> thing, namely that these solutions are metastable, and will eventually
> precipitate (hours to days).
>
> In the case of the beryllium salts, the precipitation is due to slow
> formation of metal hydroxide species. I have no direct experience with the
> aluminum variants, but since aluminum is notorious for forming goopy
> hydroxides, I would guess that the same issue pertains. So make the
> solution right before using, try not to use a pH too far above neutrality,
> and be very cautious about (for example) putting any of these solutions
> into an FPLC.
>
> Pat
>
> > On 22 Jun 2022, at 12:15 PM, Dr. Kevin M Jude <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I should have said ADPBeF3 (not ADPBeF4), and increase the NaF
> proportion for ADPAlF4. Which in practice means reducing the concentrations
> of everything else due to limited solubility of NaF.
> >
> > From: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]> on behalf of Dr.
> Kevin M Jude <[email protected]>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 9:10 AM
> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Solubility of Aluminum Fluoride
> >
> > I posted the following to ccp4bb in 2017 in response to a similar
> question about ADPBeF4. For AlF4 you’ll increase the NaF stoichiometrically:
> >
> > reagent    [stock] (mM)    final concentration (mM)    volume (µl)
>
> > BeCl2      1000            90                          9
> > NaF        750             450                         60
> > ADP, pH 8  100             30                          30
> > H2O                                                    1
> >         total volume                                   100
> >
> > To prepare ADP:Be:F (1:3:15)
> > Prepare BeCl2 stock in the fume hood due to release of Cl2 gas
>
> > thoroughly mix BeCl2 and NaF
> > Add ADP
> > dilute with H2O to final volume
> >
> > This is done at room temperature and the reactions are fast. Careful
> mixing (and adjusting the pH of the ADP beforehand) are important because
> the BeCl2 stock will precipitate at neutral or elevated pH, and the BeFx
> solution is quite acidic.
> >
> >
> >
>
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