SO - To return to the video feedback - I think the author should comment on
the evolution of what "Home Computing" is/was, the evolution in
demographics of the home computer user, the cost, etc.  Needs perspective
Bill

On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 2:41 PM Bill Degnan <billdeg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My point was that "home computing" does not equal playing computer games
> at home.  That is something that evolved into the early 90's.    Games were
> much less of a thing in home computing of the 70's.  THere are always
> exceptions, there are always variations. It's not that games weren't there
> either, it's just that economically if you wanted to play games in the 70;s
> you bought a console or went to the arcade.  Home computer games were
> inferior in the earliest versions
> b
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 2:37 PM Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Paul Koning via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 7:25 PM
>> > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
>> > Cc: Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net>
>> > Subject: [cctalk] Re: on the origin of home computers
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Mar 8, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk
>> <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > There is ample evidence of people doing personal computing before the
>> > > microprocessor was invented.  There was a whole terminal/time sharing
>> > > scene in the late 60s, plus people who did personal computung by using
>> > > the machine at a school, work, or library.  There were also people
>> > > whonowned surplussed minicomputers who used them at home.  I think you
>> > > should consider mentioning this somehow.
>> > >
>> > > Really, your video is about personal computers with a microprocessor
>> > > installed.
>> > >
>> > > A person from the 70s would not look at computing the same as we do
>> today.
>> > > The larger consumer of "home computers" were doing engineering type
>> > > work, not so much playing games.  Even the apple/tandy/commodore
>> users.
>> >
>> > Conversely, computer games predates home computers by a decade or so;
>> the
>> > PLATO system is a major source of early games, documented in several
>> places.
>>
>> Computer Games are almost as old as (Turing Complete) Computers. Alan
>> Turing
>> insisted that the Manchester/Ferranti MK1 had a Random Number generator.
>> Christopher Strachey wrote a tic-tac-toe (noughts and crosses to the
>> English) program which displayed its output in patterns on the MK1 screen.
>> In 1951 he wrote a checkers/draughts program for the Mk1.
>> He also wrote the "love letters" program.....
>> .. Turing was thinking about Chess but he couldn't fit it in the MK1....
>>
>> >
>> >       paul
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>

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