On Thu, Dec 25, 2025, 9:56 AM Peter Ekstrom via cctalk < [email protected]> wrote:
> Oh! I had tried to get TPU to start once before but for some reason it > didn't work then. Now it works, but is more of an Emacs-style editor. > I have kept trying EDT because it is more vi-like. I did just some across a > setup someone created at some point that has TPU emulate vi. > I may give that a try. I am so used to vi I even hit escape out of habit in > Notepad in Windows when I have to use it. > EDT is a non-modal editor like emacs, but without all the control character stuff. What makes it more VI like? I'm curious... Warner Ps it was likely the 90s since i last used EDT and then it was on my DEC rainbow before witching to microemacs TPU starts up now and is working so I just have to learn the commands for > it now. It should work nicely, especially if the vi emulation works. :) > > Thanks! > > - Peter > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 6:40 PM Mark Wickens via cctalk < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Might be worth trying SET TERM/DEV=VT105 on the VAX, this works much > > better for TPU for example than VT100. > > > > Mark. > > > > > On 24 Dec 2025, at 19:25, Wayne S via cctalk <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > There are several editors in VMS. > > > You might try one if the others. > > > I think edit/Tpu is one. Can’t remember the others. > > > Maybe someone on the list can. > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Dec 24, 2025, at 11:14, Nadav Eiron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I believe set term/inquire does more than set term/type. Did you give > it > > a try? You may also want to put TCP/IP on your MV if you can, and save > the > > Pi middle man and see if makes a difference. > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 11:10 AM Peter Ekstrom via cctalk < > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > I have tried that. It seems VT220 isn't valid in VMS 5.3-1, but VT200 > is > > > and I have tried it as well as most of the other types as well. > > > EDT is very limited in what it supports though: > > > > > > SET > > > > > > TERMINAL > > > > > > Format: SET TERMINAL { HCPY | VT100 | VT52 } > > > { SCROLL | NOSCROLL } > > > { EDIT | NOEDIT } > > > { EIGHTBIT | NOEIGHTBIT } > > > > > > Since it works under RSX11M and M+ I was expecting it to work under VMS > > as > > > well, but clearly not. I am wondering if it has something > > > to do with ssh from my laptop to the pi. I have made sure TERM in each > > > shell has been set before I ssh and then before I dnlogin, but > > > that hasn't helped either. I don't have a screen and keyboard on the > pi. > > I > > > may need to setup the decnet stuff on one of my other Linux > > > machines and try eliminating ssh. And I realize the subject says > telnet, > > > but it really is more ssh and then dnlogin. > > > > > > - Peter > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 1:52 PM Wayne S <[email protected] > <mailto: > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > >> Can you set your terminal emulator to emulate a vt220 instead of > trying > > >> vms to do vt100. You used the set term vt100 command before? > > >> > > >> Vms has help. Just type help set from a command prompt. > > >> > > >> Also can do show term to see term params. Maybe show term /all … don’t > > >> remember exactly. > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >>> On Dec 24, 2025, at 10:23, Peter Ekstrom via cctalk < > > >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I feel like I have tried everything, although I'm sure I haven't... > > >>> > > >>> I have my real MV 3100 up and running with a serial terminal on the > > >> console > > >>> port. It works great but I don't want to sit by the machine all the > > time > > >> to > > >>> do stuff. I have DECnet running and am able to connect to it. I have > an > > >> old > > >>> raspberry pi running a minimal linux setup with the decnet stuff > > >> installed. > > >>> > > >>> So I ssh to the pi (named gatewy) and from there I use dnlogin to > talk > > >>> DECnet and connect to the machines. This way I can connect to my > PDP-11 > > >>> machines running RSX11M and M+ and use EDT to edit files in screen > > mode. > > >>> When I try the same under VMS, EDT starts, loads the file and enters > > >> screen > > >>> mode but just shows a blank screen with the cursor in the top-left > > >> corner. > > >>> If I go to line mode I can walk through the file and edit using line > > >> mode. > > >>> But as soon as I go back to the screen mode (the change command) I > just > > >> get > > >>> the blank screen. > > >>> > > >>> I have made sure TERM in each shell is vt100 and I have tried forcing > > VMS > > >>> to VT100 but it stays with a vt200_series terminal. I also have a > SIMH > > >>> MV3100 also running VMS 5.3-1 (they both run on that version) and it > > acts > > >>> the same way as the hardware MV3100. If I go onto the console > > connection > > >> in > > >>> SIMH EDT works fine, as on the physical terminal on the real machine. > > >>> > > >>> Anyone have any pointers or ideas I can try? > > >>> > > >>> - Peter > > >> > > > > >
