On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Dave Platt wrote:

>Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:24:45 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Dave Platt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Content-Type: text/plain
>Subject: Re[2]: Bill Davidsen's incorrect mail setup.....
>
>>
>> >What is that?
>>
>> http://www.orgs.org
>
>Not quite the right URL, I think.

Typo.  The "g" key is right above the "b" key.

http://www.orbs.org
             ^

>The RBL (Realtime Blackhole List) is one of several lists run
>by MAPS (www.mail-abuse.org).  MAPS also runs the RSS (a list
>of "open relay" systems known to have been abused by spammers)
>and the DUL (list of dialup IP addresses).

Yes, www.mail-abuse.org is another site.  I couldn't remember the
URL, and www.maps.com wasn't it so i only showed the ORBS one
(typo'd).  Big duh on my part.  ;o)


>ORBS maintains a list of "open relay" sites, similar to the MAPS
>RSS in many respects.  The ORBS list is somewhat more aggressive
>(it'll list sites which test out as being open, even if they have
>not ever been used/abused by spammers).

Perhaps but their reasoning is given on their site.  Nothing on
topic to discuss here though, so I wont... ;o)

>I think it's highly desireable for sites which use the RBL, RSS,
>DUL, and/or ORBS for mail filtering, to actually indicate _which_
>list the banned system was found on.  All of these lists-of-hosts
>can be subject to occasional "false positive" listings, and it's
>very useful for sysadmins to be able to figure out which list their
>host is on so they can contact the list administrator.

I agree completely.

>For what it's worth, I plugged the apparent IP address of Joerg's
>relay system into the MAPS and ORBS database lookup pages, and none
>of them had that address on file.  This could mean that it _was_
>listed, and has since been fixed... or it could mean that there was
>a lookup problem when Prodigy tried to check the database, and
>Prodigy banned the mail by mistake.

Or perhaps the relay Joerg used at the time of bouncing was in
RBL..  What is the IP of your SMTP's Joerg?  Check it out on the
two sites above and see if it is in the clear.  If so, Prodigy is
either in the wrong, or using some other service that perhaps has
a false positive.


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    Mike A. Harris  -  Linux advocate  -  Free Software advocate
          This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved.
  Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer.
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