So sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] am Tue, May 22, 2001 at 06:38:11PM +0200:
> a) This is a very important isue as many people have problems and the kernel
> developers don't listen to them!
>
> b) it is the opposite way round: the current default requires user education
> while my suggestion would just do what 99.999% of all users expect.
Actually, I think it's not the kernel maintainer's job to care for these.
Much rather I think you should try to convince the people at Mandrake,
RedHat, SuSE, Debian, Progeny, LibraNet etc.pp., that is, convince the
distributions. Most (all?) of them ship with heavily modified versions of
the kernel, and 'normal' users use whatever ships with a distribution.
'Mr. John Doe' does not compile his kernel himself anymore, I suppose. If
it's not possible to record a CD out-of-the box, than it's the distributions
fault, as they could easily setup to only use ide-scsi for everyone.
Actually, at least the for profit distributions should have a keen interest
in this, as this makes their distribution easier to use. And ease-of-use
sells.
> WRONG: ... or must I send you a ide-cdrom driver where I removed the ability
> to send SCSI commands to the CD-ROM drive to proove that you ar wrong?
>
> Fact is you NEED SCSI commands to do it and ide-cdrom does it in a non Linux way
> so cdrecord cannot use it.
You need SCSI commands to play and listen to music?
> IDE-CD being the default configuration for ATAPI CD-ROm drives
> is causing problems for many people and it does things (send SCSI commands)
> in a way that is noncompliant with the rest of the Linux kernel.
Is ide-cd *REALLY* causing problems for people who only want to listen to
music and read files off a CD? NOTE: I'm not talking of grabbing music off
a CD here, nor am I talking about reading a CD in binary mode (eg. cat
/dev/cdrom).
Alexander Skwar
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