On Mon 13 January 2003 17:52, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> From: Matthias Riese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >> >Disesteeming the work of other people does not prove anything
> >> > you claim.  And the interest of lost of people in the
> >> > project proves the contrary wrt to the need for the project.

It proves that the people who do DVD burning at this moment (seems 
to be large organisations with backup needs mainly) don't care 
whether their software is free (as in speech). Once DVD writers get 
to be more common to home users and FOSS hackers things might 
change.

> >> If anybody is disesteeming the work of other people, it is Mr.
> >> Rosenkranzer. He did not write a single line of code for
> >> "dvdrecord" but introduced his copyright notice!
> >>
> >> Mr. Rosenkranzer is a person who falsely takes all the
> >> credit......
> >
> >$ cd dvdrtools-0.1.3
> >$ find -type f|xargs grep -il Rosenkr
> >./video/dvdgen
> >./AUTHORS
> >./ChangeLog
> >./dvdrtools.spec
>
> It seems that you are not clever enough to check files in a
> reasonable way :-(

Ad hominem. Very bad form and not very civilised either. Plus I'd 
say checking for copyright statements in the name of Rosenbranzer 
using that command is very reasonable, so that your statement is 
not only unnecessary name-calling, but also false.

> From cdrecord.c:
>
>         if ((flags & F_MSINFO) == 0 || lverbose || flags &
> F_VERSION) { printf("dvdrtools v0.1.3\n"
>                        "Portions (c) 2002-2003 Ark Linux
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\n" "Based on:\n");
>         }

I opened cdrecord.c and the first thing I saw was your name, three 
times actually:

/* @(#)cdrecord.c       1.151 01/11/27 Copyright 1995-2001 J. 
Schilling */
#ifndef lint
static  char sccsid[] =
        "@(#)cdrecord.c 1.151 01/11/27 Copyright 1995-2001 J. 
Schilling";
#endif
/*
 *      Record data on a CD/CVD-Recorder
 *
 *      Copyright (c) 1995-2002 J. Schilling
 */

> "Ark Linux" is  not a natural person and as I am the Copyright
> holder, I must have transfered legal rights to "Ark Linux" to
> make this statement legal.

You are the copyright holder of the original work. Apparently, Ark 
Linux added certain portions, thereby creating a derivative work, 
and there is no reason why those portions they wrote should be 
copyrighted by you. Note that Ark Linux does not claim copyrights 
on the parts of the code that are written by you (in fact, it's not 
quite clear _which_ portions are copyrighted by whom. Perhaps that 
should be cleared up. But claiming someone stole your copyrights 
based on this statement is nonsense).

> In addition, there is a falsely claimed Copyright for a mail
> address from Mr. Rosenkranzer. Believe me: he did not write a
> single line of code for dvdrecord - he only took code from other
> people.

Why should I believe you? And who says that those people did not 
transfer the copyrights to him? And what about the copyright laws 
for collections of work created by others?

<snip>
> >On the other hand the project's homepage clearly states:
> >
> >"dvdrtools is a fork of cdrtools, with the primary goal of
> > supporting writable DVD drives."
> >
> >thereby giving you credit for developing the code baseline of
> >dvdrtools.  Whereas you fight even the project just to be
> > mentioned in this mailing list.
> >
> >dvdrtool's project homepage links to all similiar projects.
> >Yours not why?
>
> Your sentence above obviously is a self contradiction:

It's not self-contradiction. It may be wrong, that depends on how 
narrowly you define similar. If you take similar as in "open source 
DVD writing software" then it does link to all similar projects. If 
you take similar as "DVD writing software" then many things are 
excluded from the list.

Lourens
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